Will Andy Farrell get the adoration Jack Charlton got?

It will be

This would be an all island achievement and can only help

You don't seem to understand how sports works, any sport.

Ireland are aiming to win the competition if you talk to the players, fans of course have seen years of hurt and will push back from sayin out that the plan is to win the competition. Secretly in the back of our minds we will want to win it. That's more to do with the Irish mentality than anything else.

As I posted already Ireland have just won a Grand Slam. A extremely difficult competition to win but even more difficult to win without losing a game. Not sure who you are calling "also rans".

We should celebrate Irish sporting achievement, no matter what sport they are in. Not play this tit for tat nonsense.

Who said "real sports fans" don't curse?

I just said it's not a cursing competition to show who is more passionate. If you think going to a game and people know you are the most passionate because you spent the entire time cursing you are sadly mistaken. No matter which sport it is.

I have attended lots of different sports, GAA/Soccer/Rugby/Horse Racing/Running etc. So I can speak from experience.

I don't think anyone will get the adoration Jack got. We're living in different times, more cynical times with haters and contrarians that are just watching for the first slip to attack & cancel.

The residency rule is party of rugby and is used by most teams in the Rugby world cup.

Plenty of other athletes represent Ireland through residence and naturalisation.

On the flip side,how many Irish soccer players have left the country and live and play in the UK? It's alright to be Irish (or even be English but your granny was Irish) and have your life and career outside Ireland, but not ok to live and play in Ireland, and hold Irish residency, but not born here?

FFS, thats the entire point. The Irish mentality, the one that despite being the top ranked side in the world pushes back from saying that the plan is to win.

Where else would you see that? Imagine Usain Bolt going to the Olympics and "pushing back from saying that the plan is to win". Imagine Verstappen going to a race and pushing back from saying the plan is to win. Imagine Djokovic going to Wimbledon and pushing back from saying the plan is to win. You would never hear that, because they are/were the best in the world and bloody well expect to win.

The fact Ireland doesn't have that mentality is what has been holding them back for decades. And don't talk to me about Grand slams as if there isn't a history of Ireland winning 6 nations and then **** the bed when it comes to the real prize.

There's so much projection in your critique of that opinion piece.

She never mentions rugby once in that article.

The opening half is an account of bringing her son to the recent Ireland v Netherlands game and the issue of people around them effing and blinding in the presence of a child.

I was at that game myself, as it happens, and there was a father there with a young lad, pretty near to me - the only really young kid that was to be seen the section I was in - and, as the game started to not go Ireland's way, people were cursing and roaring. I did wonder whether I'd bring a young kid to this environment.

I presume to even think that - to follow the logic of your argument - makes me a rugby fan? Because those kind of thoughts have marked that journalist as being "clearly" a fan of rugby in your eyes.

I've never been to a rugby match in my life, didn't watch the game at the weekend, and would have happily taken them losing by 50 points, as long as Arsenal beat City the following day.

The second half of the piece is a blanket bemoaning of parents not keeping their emotions in check at the sideline of underage games generally.

"but that's not ok with you but its ok to declare for a country because that person has lived here since 2014"

Anybody can become an Irish citizen and get an Irish passport after 5 years of residence.

Athletes have "every right" to play for Ireland under residency rules.

If you think that someone who lives, works and raises a family in Ireland is less Irish than someone who's never been to Ireland, who's parents have never been to Ireland but has a granny from the auld country, then I sincerely disagree with you.

I never said he wasn't entitled. He is entitled, just like people qualifying under residency are entitled.

Just said that he was less Irish than someone living here and raising a family.

And your cousin is less Irish than Tham Nguyen who's representing Ireland in weightlifting.

I think the "granny rule" vs the residency rule debate is pretty tiresome.

You qualify under maybe a distant relative? Yeah, alright, fair enough.

You qualify because you've lived here for a few years? Yeah, alright, fair enough.

It has changed to 5 years now. Not going to see many unless they join very young.

Also a huge amount of local talent coming through the provinces.

As for granny rule, grand. Specific example is Kevin kilbane. Probably more Irish than I am!

All Blacks have I think 11 foreign born players , Scotland in the last world had 15 out of 33 in their squad , it’s nothing unusual , dunno if it’s farcical when every nation does it.