Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Palestinians deserve the right to their own self determination ON THEIR OWN LAND. Not in Egypt or anywhere else. But on the their land. Land which Israel steals.

What you're proposing is merely ethic cleansing.

I see this war getting even more dirty. Israeli around the world will become targets. Israeli maybe able to defend citizens in Israeli but impossible to defend them in foreign countries. Israeli like palestinians will also have freedom of travel taken away.

Israelis now using banned phosphorus ammunition on Gaza.

Also many many strikes killing families and destroying homes south of Gaza city too. For anyone claiming that rest of the strip is safe - that is a blatant lie. Israelis are indiscriminately bombing everything in the Gaza strip.

So far over 187000 people displaced in Gaza due to their homes being damaged or destroyed. That is not "precision strikes", that is ethnic cleansing.

i think forced relocation is considered a war crime. So that is not an option.

The Palestinian refugees caused such problems in Jordan a few years back that i dont think Egypt or any other Arab country would take them on voluntarily.

If no two state solution is possible then I think Israel has to treat them as Israeli citizens and not currently as its prisoners'.

If Hamas are fighting for freedom for the Palestinan people then why do they use those Palestinan people as human shields?

They fight to slaughter Israeli's nothing else. The Palestinan shields they hide behind are useful for propaganda and victimhood.

Hamas are Palestinians.

Watching footage on sky news of a women and her little baby and child being taken hostage by Hamas made me just cry this morning. I cannot abide cruelty to children, helpless little babies. I don’t care what side you’re on, that is not justifiable no matter what land is disputed. No land is worth a human life, Jewish, Palestinian, it doesn’t matter. I hope this can be stopped, slaughter of innocent people is wrong no matter what your goal.

I have never heard not granting a people their independence as being classed as a war crime. Israel seems to perform some actions that can be classed as close to war crimes but I dont think this meets the definition.

They will not be granted Israeli citizenship because the Israelis operate an apartheid regime and do not want Palestinians having any say in country's governance.

Ohh right it’s starting now. Not once in the last 70+ years of conflict between Palestine and Israel, but now. Just as Isreal was about to sign a historic deal with Saudi that could actually lead to a dramatic reduction of tensions in the region, funny timing to launch a genocide but sure Isreal=bad right?

Both sides bad but only one with huge weapons who refused to let women and children out before bombing the place to smithereens.

There is two problems with the potential solution I would admit. One, the Israeli government has admitted in the past that they couldnt admit 4.9m Palestinians as citizens as it would destabilise the democracy. And two, Palestinians have never shown an inclination to want to become Israeli Citizens, not on mass anyway.

It would work in Palestinians favour though as they would have more land rights and human rights and the Israeli army would not be allowed to be as reckless with the lives of Israeli citizens. Israeli Arabs exist in Israel and have a high standard of living so it is a much better situation for them then being in this limbo that only benefits Israel.

Any Irish person who decided to throw on their old Palestinian flag on the weekend of this attack needs psychiatric assistance

It's irrelevant whether you support them in general or not , your gesture means you support the weekends madness