Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Then why has it been geolocated to a district within gaza?

I just cannot see how any rational person can still, even now, view the conflict with this level of black and white absolutism.

Not only that, none of this absolutism is actually conducive to Palestinian freedom at all. The only path to lasting and peaceful freedom for Palestine is one that is based on mutual rationality and ideological sacrifice on both sides of that divide. Shooting children indiscriminately and parading the lifeless corpse of a young innocent tattoo artist with jeering and spitting are not the acts of glorious freedom fighters — it is bloodlust.

These men will win nothing for Palestine, nor in the long run will Israel's counter-assault achieve anything. People will go on glorifying one side with total bias and merely encourage the conflict.

There is two problems with the potential solution I would admit. One, the Israeli government has admitted in the past that they couldnt admit 4.9m Palestinians as citizens as it would destabilise the democracy. And two, Palestinians have never shown an inclination to want to become Israeli Citizens, not on mass anyway.

It would work in Palestinians favour though as they would have more land rights and human rights and the Israeli army would not be allowed to be as reckless with the lives of Israeli citizens. Israeli Arabs exist in Israel and have a high standard of living so it is a much better situation for them then being in this limbo that only benefits Israel.

Any Irish person who decided to throw on their old Palestinian flag on the weekend of this attack needs psychiatric assistance

It's irrelevant whether you support them in general or not , your gesture means you support the weekends madness

I’m not going to take “sides” here- both sides have committed atrocities - and indeed the Gaza Strip as a concentration camp is not just Israel’s doing - either side could have voted for peace and worked to maintain peace many years ago and they didn’t - so we are where we are- atrocity building on more atrocity - I’m not going to waste energy criticising one or indeed both sides- we all know the history and we’re now here today - shouting but but but doesn’t really do anything for me- I’ve had decades of war news thrown at me- I think I’m immune to the shock of it all at this stage- they’ll do whatever they want to do because they always have

The best thing for the Israelis maybe. Why would should the Palestinians be exiled? I understand that Israeli won the war they want to enjoy the spoils of war so want to treat the Palestinians like they were centuries ago, dispersed all around the world but I dont think this is going to happen. Lucky the English didnt do that with the Irish.

Israelis deserve the right to their own determination ON THEIR OWN LAND. Not in Russia or Germany or anywhere else. But on their land. Land which Palestine steals.

What you're proposing is merely ethnic cleansing.

See what I did there, I reflected back at you the problem. Palestinians in the form of Hamas want to wash the Jewish state of Israel from the face of the earth, and all who live in it.

I’m thinking you’re one of those people who fixate entirely on the wrongs committed by the Israelis so I’ll stop after this but read your own comment again and look at what happened on Sunday. Can you imagine what would happen Israel if Hamas had access to the Israelis level of weaponry? Because then there actually would be the genocide you mentioned and the Israeli population sure as hell wouldn’t of doubled in the last 20 years.

Can’t hope they might be released, that this might stop, no? Wish them a quick death, just awful commentary.