Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

Look all il say is i own more than 3 of my derogation dairy farmers neighbours put together il leaveve it a that im from the midlands

It's called rising to the bait. You do have the power to stop it.

You can use the weather Apps to see the forecasts. Pretty accurate really for 3 to 5 days.

What kind of covers have you to deal with, better off letting them into light covers and keeping them in by night feed a bit of silage. High covers are only being walked into the ground in this weather at least the low covers will be cleared and some bit right for next spring and you might get a chance to somewhat properly clean out the higher covers if things ease up.

I have to disagree of robustness of high ebi all the large dairies which are much bigger than mine are useing kiwi cross there real hardy and can walk i dont like high ebi poor animals.

Same story in most places I’d imagine you’ve to pick your battles these days with the weather, you kind of need to hit lower covers during the day and hope they clean out fairly well once they know they’re getting silage they don’t tend to stay out long if weather conditions are bad.

Opportunity cost there Bass, this mytical thing......

I know what ur saying but i tried kiwi cross great feet and legs udders iffy.only for calf issue id still use them.If a cow cant walk what gd is she

So the grass is more palatable after spreading the yara nutri booster than when you spread nothing and you're wondering if it's a false economy by not spreading in every round as a result? I take it.

That's your micro nutrients in the nutri booster. Sulphur, sodium and selenium. You may really do full comprehensive soil test to see what's what but going off your observation it seems they're lacking. You are getting the growth because you are bringing those elements up. Theoretically if you had those elements up and supplied you wouldn't need the nitrogen. The soil would be balanced getting those and it would favour biology to supply the nitrogen to the plant.

In the back of my mind I've an idea to make up a fert mix with everything else bar nitrogen and phosphorus. Perfectly blended in proportion that could be spread in the closed period on grassland. I could mix it up in a concrete mixer bucket on the loader with weighcell and into the fert spreader.

Let us know what concoction you put together on this. You could do the environment a huge favour if you turn up something favourable by hoovering up any excess N that might have otherwise leached, as well as increased DM production.

It could be a very repeatable "fix" across all farms through conventional sprayers. If it utilised extra nitrogen, the impact on WQ would have to be enormous.

Not sure if it'd make it's own nitrogen or hoover up others around it. It could actually hoover up excess with the growing plant.

Jesus. I'll be rich.🤣

It'd be granular in the fert spreader.

There's taking the p1ss too though.

A quiet word behind the scenes and a stick shown behind the scenes can turn things around too.

I should know and probably others long enough here do as well.

Intuition goes a long way too.

Have a look at the other British and half Irish half British farming site and compare it to the tone here. If one poster says something is off you could dismiss that poster, if more than one says it you take notice.

Anyway ye know yourselves.

Not just dairy farmers Bass. There are tillage and beef men here that get upset too if anyone sees things differently. I work off farm and people in that organisation are the same. It is a people thing.

Plus 1 👍👍👍this place gone to shore lately …led by 1 or 2 and one in particular gigantic shite stirrer who takes joy in been a smart arse ….mods have a tough job but jaysus this ladddddd has had long enough 99% here wouldn’t be sad to see him turfed out

There’s a difference of opinion and then there’s just trolling.

If you’ve been following the posts from that poster then you’d see they don’t make sense. Back when he started posting he stated he was milking 155 cows and classed himself as a “big dairy farmer”. I know men milking near enough that many and they have full time jobs as well.

Then just this week he stated hes from the midlands and he’s a bigger farmer than his 3 nearest neighbours who are all derogation farmers. So his 3 derogation neighbours are all milking less than 50 cows yet the main trend in his posting is that derogation farmers are all big greedy farmers?

I’m from the midlands and contracting so I’d be in and out of a lot of yards. I genuinely don’t know 3 derogation farmers in the total area I cover, let alone 3 of them that are all joining one another and smaller farmers than their neighbouring 155 cow dairy farmer.

Like I said, it’s not hard to figure out. He’s a bulsh**ter in a fariytale land. The simplest way of dealing with him is to ignore him. There’s enough of people here giving genuine opinions and advice without needing to listen to bulls**t.

Was it you that said cost of production this year was 18c/l or something like that? If so, no wonder you haven’t a problem with the direction the dairy threads are going.

Milk supply must be seriously tightening up our theirs lactose issues, it's usually the middle of December before milk here might have to go up to virgina, it's going up their now already 110km trip from the yard here to the factory and the haulier has a 150km trip back to his yard on the return trip

Gone to three day collection here, very early for it

Our driver dropped to two loads a day a couple of weeks ago. Feck all milk around.

Is in not just me but when i thought of fixing i would only be able to get a very small amount fixed and i would be locked in to a contract to supply so if milk went 20 id still have to supply certain months this wouldnt suit me as id dry of the cows early and me and the woman wud go on holidays

I find the bragging about buying land and snipes at others who were left it to be very ignorant of reality. In many cases lads forgo outside opportunities out of a sense of responsibility to help out their parents etc and work for years for very little because the farm can't support massive drawings.

IMHO the lad who had it handy was the one who got the stroke of luck in buying a block at 2-3k an acre while having a 9-5 regular income to back it up. And I say that as some who almost bought a sizeable enough neighbouring block here about 5 years ago (it wasn't sold in the end up) and I would have paid for it purely out of savings I had from the 9-5. No windfall from investment or anything like that - just money set aside from salary. And it wasn't that difficult to build up because I more or less could know what was coming in and I more or less know what would be going out this year and the next year and the following year. That's comfort. I say fair play to the lads who inherit their place because they likely worked far harder for what they have.