Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Why are you trying to down play this ....

*Posted this before I saw the threadbanned*

Its amazing how according to the hysterics the Israeli's ONLY kill innocent women and children. A 100% rate like that is incredibly unlikely.

Quoting other propaganda accounts.

Who is saying that?

Would be pretty incredible to think they never take down one legitimate target surely. All the money they get/spend on defence, their intelligence agencies have taken a bruising after the weekend but surely they can still identify a legitimate combat target now and then!

Well actual evidence from credible sources might help.

Not the USA where weapons of mass destruction in IRAQ proved to be a lie.

And thats it, just the truth and facts is what we need.

Again - you wont ever see the actual evidence.

President Biden is a credible source. You are referring to something that happened 20 years ago under a different administration.

At this stage there is zero reason to doubt Bidens bona fides in this matter.

As far as Im concerned and I think the wider world in general is concerned this has been confirmed as fact.

Hamas has 2 million hostages and an ideology that says they will get eternal life if they die in battle.

I don't see how they can be defeated.

Even if you were to take out each one they have indoctrinated some million children ,some of whom will carry on their fight.

I saw that the population of Gaza went up from 340,000 in 1970 to 2,000,000 now.(correct?)

Is that some kind of a policy or just a by product of social norms and living conditions?

I seem to remember Hamas (or was it the PLO ?) had a policy of using children/babies as "suicide" bombs a good few years ago.Just coincidence?

The atrocities have been confirmed as fact. More with every passing day.

The assault on the festival was an atrocity and it spread from there to whole families.

The Jews know? You mean the ones on the receiving end of the atrocitie

The dead know.

CNN interviewed a US Palestinian lady. You can hear the rockets exploding in the background constantly. She is so used to it that she doesn't even flinch

I saw a very good outline on youtube today.

It gave me a new insight into an ex Tory MP and Campbell. They can seem to communicate normally and deliver information when they wish.

I will admit to a degree of bias in favour of the Palestinians. I would not feel good being kept kettled in to a small area, in particular by having my home and land removed by a group adhering to a religion I would have little regard for.

If you have no freedom, no justice and no hope for the future, I can understand people turning to desperate measures.

Earlier you were trying to discredit the eye witness testimony from the attacks confirming rape among other other atrocities.

Now it is glib remarks about the US President confirming the reports of atrocities with babies. Such confirmation would not be stated lightly.

What will your next denial be?

Why is it only the reports of Hamas atrocities you "just ask questions" about?

Any excuse to avoid accepting that Hanmas carried out those atrocities and condemning the atrocities.

They raped. They slaughtered. They mutilated. Deliberately. Civilians. Children. Babies. That is Hamas. That is how they fight.

That Hamas carried out multiple atrocities both in scale and victims is beyond doubt.

And your posts try to gloss over that and seem more concerned about these glib remarks and questions.

Not seeing the woods for the trees.

Good for other posters to know that I think.

This from the guy insisting a named woman was raped with zero evidence.

Do you believe everything politicians say or just US Presidents?

An eye witness? Is that the Israeli soldier, Raz Cohen, you said she was there as a civilian not a soldier? Is that her?