Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

Bass he doesn't have a milking parlour.

He doesn't have dairy stock.

He doesn't rear heifers for 700 on rough ground.

He doesn't go in and buy stock off dairy farmers. He doesn't sell his own stock.

He doesn't insult tillage, beef, sheep farmers.

He does insult dairy farmers constantly on here.

You can't spread slurry legally in date on dry ground or make silage now without negative comments.

If all that is not trolling. What is?

Bass you were the one who brags constantly about how you bought your farm and paid for it through stock that others said couldn't be done. That's commercial farming. Now you are defending someone who gives out about only dairy farmers renting land. He has nothing to say against tillage, sheep, beef, potatoes renting land. If you were a dairy farmer Bass and this farmer saw you buying land you'd be labelled as greedy. This is the logic here. This is what you defend.

Another new poster on the milk price thread had men throwing the toys out of the pram too.

There is as much sensitivity as trolling currently.

Ye are worse for discussing him. As in everyday life there'll always be assholes.

Was kinda concerned with what my tax bill could be this year but my accountant came up trumps for me. I'm gone income averaging far a while and then company it looks like. Made 1600 per cow he told me in 2021, will be up over 2k per cow in 2022 they said. I have 24 month accounts so my 2022 accounts that I pay in 2023 are for 2021 profits. It's a weight off my mind. Should have trusted them in the first place but I often find it hard to give over full control.

I'm only farming 5 years and my first couple of years were low profit due to higher investment. So I have those low profit years for a while.

I would not accept that.

You are misquoting him. Did he say rough ground, I have not got time to go back and re-read his posts, but I taught he said old grassland. I have a couple of unreseeded paddocks, actually I have done no reseeding in about 5 years. Those old paddocks preform very well. Actually doing my Acres application last year on a reseeded paddock that often invariably is used to outwinter on he commented on well.it holds up and how it is managed.

Like I said to you he is on the ball on the cost of rearing heifers in a system below 170kgsN/ Ha. You might not like to hear that but it on the money after initial 3 months costs in a below 170 kgs system you will not be taking third or fourth cut silage that is basically bags of water. Ya it might be up and above 80 dmd, but it will mostly be 20 or below DM. Ya it will dry out as effluent drains out if it but it's expensive feeding.

Dairy farmers have pushed hard over the last ten years and elbowed many other lads aside including other dairy farmers. Some will call it greedy. Some might not like to hear it but it probably a reality in some other farmers thinking. I have heard those conversations by other farmers and dare I say it farm advisors in the non dairy sectors

On the slurry spreading on dry ground he was off the wall. However a good few dairy farmers got caught out probably saving a bit for nearer the closing day to use it to boost grass growth. It was not that long ago when there was a month between the artificial and organic fertilizer closing date the advice was to go out with 1k gallons ish/acre in early October. You will not see that now printed but the thinking is still there.

There is no point in insulting beef and tillage farmers on a dairy farm thread.

Finally a the new proposal to grant aid specific slurry storage @70% is pi$$ing me off. Ya it has something that will not effect me but it's a stupid idea. Moving huge volumes of slurry off farm from a nutrient point of vier makes no sense from an economic or environmental point if view. It's giving a hidden subsidity to a certain cohort of farmers it's the same as Beam a few years ago it just hides the cracks in the system

I presume that's a typo on your lactose. Doing around 4.6 here on just grass and 4kg of a 15% nut. About 1.4 kgMs.

New factory pricing leaves canner cows worthless even if they kill out well, got 2 euro a kilo for 2 cows last month that averaged 300kgs deadweight, they had no flesh straight out of the parlour and on the flipside a carry-over cull made 4 euro a kilo at 340 deadweight on the same day

Culls this evening in Gortatlea. Straight from the parlour cows sub a euro a kg, dried off cows 1.5+/kg, cows with good flesh 2-2+/kg.

I saw two cows one after the other both 600+kgs one make 550ish and the second made 1k+ and she only had a little flesh.

Dry off the cows lads before going to the mart or factory with them