Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

I saw a photo of a completely charred baby in a crib over on Reddit/2ndyomkippurwar earlier today.

Do the photos you need to see specifically have to have decapitated babies or would a charred one do you? If so I can link you over.

I also saw a photo of a dead baby in a crib and you couldn't quite see if the head had fully detached through some blurring to protects its identity so not sure if that ticks your boxes?

What are you blathering about?

The point is that you seem to think the treatment dished out by Hamas is the fault of Israel, when in fact throughout history people hate and kill for no real reason. From the Tutsis to the Armenians.

A group like Hamas hates, that is all. It doesn't matter now nice Israel is to them, they will hate and want to kill them all.

What proof are you looking for exactly

"i still have no proof babies were beheaded"

Photos or videos is that what you really want ?

Have you noticed nobody has disputed the number of deaths in Gaza why exactly is that ???

Hamas did it because they want all Israeli's dead.

No other whataboutery/apologies are relevant.

yes, and the civil war was just over states rights.

But, the states rights to do what?

Here, yes, they want Israelis dead, breaking news spoiler alert. That's just the tip of the Iceberg, go deeper: why do they want them dead? It's not Adrenochrome.

More denial ...

I thought nobody was denying it yet it's your opening paragraph

I didn't believe for a second that Hamas decapitated babies. Sure rape and kill women and children, but not babies. They're not evil, right?

Never thought I’d be agreeing with you, but this is a very good point. When the peace people formed in Northern Ireland they did not take sides, it was all about stopping the bloodshed on all sides. What we are seeing in cities like London is the outpouring of hate for both Israel and Jews in general, I saw a clip from somewhere where they were chanting “gas the Jews “, that’s not people interested in peace.

No easy solutions I’m afraid, Both sides have an intense hatred of each other, Israel has been under constant attack since 1948 and is a state surrounded by Arab countries who at different times have tried unsuccessfully to drive them out , 6 day war and Yom kippur war, this coming off the back of the holocaust, it’s not that hard to see why they would overreact to an attack on their people, however we might prefer they would have exercised more restraint in their response.

The fact is Israel has powerful allies and the Palestinians apart from a few rogue states like Iran and the likes of organisations like BLM and individuals like Jeremy Corbyn (an anti-Semite thrown out of the Labour Party) has none. Why is that?

Even their own Arab brothers like Egypt etc don’t want them or support them in any meaningful way, something which a lot of posters conveniently ignore. They have never had a great leader or spokesperson, Arafat was corrupt and enriched himself at the expense of his own people. Unless they reject Hamas they are done for, because no civilised state will negotiate with a group that has the elimination of Israel as one of it’s stated aims, simple as, if they do that, then this would increase the pressure on countries like the US, UK and EU to do the right thing and get Israel to have proper dialogue towards a workable 2 state solution.

I don’t see it happening anytime soon.

No the white house did not roll back the claim, there has been nothing from the Whitehouse no statement,no documented post on social media or on Broadcasts

Except that there have been a whole heap of posters and posts on this thread who have repeatedly only focussed on the bad deeds of Israel.

What Israel is doing is horrific, but what was done to the children of Israel last Saturday is beyond horrific, just the music festival alone, not even thinking about the babies.

And we have had posters on here talking about sending the Jews back to where their grandparents came from, an astonishing level of ignorance, we have had the posts that talked about what Shani was wearing, we have had the posts trying to distinguish between whether the babies were beheaded, disembowelled or shot in the head. We have had the posts defending the pro-Palestinian protests and Twitter flags, which, let's remember went up on Twitter after the Israeli babies were killed and before any retaliation occurred.

The atrocities committed by Hamas are right up there with the worst the world has seen.

People need to ask themselves a couple of simple questions, if you had it in your power to stop the slaughter of the innocents on Saturday would you stop it?

Now ask yourself if you had it in your power to stop the slaughter of the innocents in Gaza now would you stop it?

You'll have to ask Netanyahu those 2 questions as it has started to sound like he could have stopped both.

The more pertinent question would be why he didn't.

Why was she undressed exactly.....

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