Price gouging by the pub, restaurant & hotel industry

You're the guy who went off on a tangent when you said out of the blue "I'll bet you really hoped the place was suffering and the clientele had abandoned it. No such luck buddy. Try again." I thought that was a weird comment.

You claimed your buddy was having a joke and only idiots thought he was serious. The actual video proves other wise, he's obviously gloating about the whole situation. We know you have no problem drinking there Dav and you're a big fan of the place and the owner.

What I didn't know was the serious criminal record he has, recently convicted in both the District and Circuit courts for spitting into a pensioners face and recently convicted in court for robbing an iPhone throws an even darker cloud over him than the video.

He's not the kind of person I'd be supporting even if he had the only pub in Ireland, but everyone is different and if you're happy to support someone like that and sing their praises on a public forum off with ya lad.

Here, now. Let's not rewrite history. It was you who said "as if this guy is indicative of the sector in general".

Someone brought up the owner because he was crowing in the media about how great it was during Covid, that he wanted it to to continue and was forced to apologise.......literally all over the Times. They never mentioned how it was indicative of anything, just as an example. Then you jumped in with two feet defending the owner, because you know him, saying he runs a fine place and he was obviously joking when he said that he wanted 10 more years.

Turns out, the owner is a scumbag, he wasn't joking around, has done much worse things recently and your defense of him blew up in your face. Then you accused the other poster of going off on a tangent by bringing it up. Even still, nobody said it was indicative of anything.

You can't claim that as a victory somehow and start berating others for making you look foolish. The fact that he's a scumbag and you have so far refused to acknowledge that fact, and have have no qualms about drinking there speaks volumes. Someone would be forgiven for thinking you were related to him.

So you're the person that drinks Carlsberg! :)

Never understand why you see it in so many pubs, yet nobody ever orders it.

Those prices look fine to me. Pints cheap by Dublin standards.

Hope you enjoyed the Birthday Meal.

Dav has shown his true colours by trying to not only defend but champion that utter scumbag and it matters not a jot now if he tries to squirm his way out of it because he can't.

The internet never forgets Dav, it's there forever.

Unlike your much loved Silver Key the moral high ground is a place you will never frequent or even visit.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if your buddy was refused a licence renewal due to his recent convictions, in fact I'd go so far as to say I'd be surprised if he was granted one due to his recent convictions for assaulting a pensioner, theft and breaching of Covid regulations.

There's a very old saying you may or may not be aware of "A man is known by the company he keeps".

This plus what you described last night about the food sounds like an enjoyable night out and I'd hazard a guess that customers don't feel ripped off. Have enjoyed similar experiences in other restaurants. (Not in wexford but must keep an eye out for it).

In contrast however a couple could drop a couple of hundred quid on a three course meal and drinks somewhere and it's just meh.

The price when it is an average experience is important as the value isn't there. A great dining experience, good service etc and you will feel like it was worth the price on the bill.

I think a lot of establishments are probably stuck in between the two.

One of the best posts on here in a long time. Love the finale!

Thats not gaugging though, just tax.

The Japanese get a lot of benefits from tax on the "old reliables" like we do. As do the Swedes and other places that tax the **** out of booze and cigs. When cigs were a thing.

Oh they are. (But not as much as you'd think). But I just wanted to compare like with like

E8 for a bottle of koppaberg in the summit Inn Howth the other day ... lol !

The biggest pisstake is the fact non alcoholic beer costs basically the same as a usual beer. Surely it should be cheaper

That's kinda my point.

It was Corcoran's wasn't it 😂 robbing bastards. I was probably sitting beside you.

I avoid Irish bars abroad, they are the biggest rip offs

That might be the case, but sometimes they're the best craic to be honest. The best bar in Hamburg is, easily, an Irish bar.

Since you know what you're talking about, perhaps you can enlighten us. How much does a publican pay for bottles of peroni and peroni 00? If you don't know the price of peroni feel free to use a different example.

It's funny how the difference in costs just happens to magically tally to the tax difference on the two products enabling publicans to sell them for the same price.

I see non alcoholic beers are cheaper than alcoholic beers in the supermarkets. Interesting considering the higher costs you refer to.

Yet in the pub you’ll pay the same price for both. Publicans don’t have the tax excuse, so it’s pretty much the definition of gouging.

A bit like a Brit going on holiday to Spain and saying the best spot for a bit of breakfast is that place that does the good old English fry up with a litre of lager to wash it down.

Says more about the speaker than the place

Seeing as there's multiple Irish in pretty much every country it's possible ther's a few in hell so people wont mind going to hell.

No. Not really.

The problem with boozers abroad is that they're usually "bars" and not "pubs", and a pub is a different thing to a bar, if you get my drift. There's a very good reason why Irish pubs do so well in foreign countries. If it's done right, it can be a great atmosphere. A lot of bars in Europe, for example, can be very cold. You go in, buy your drink, and then feck off. There's no sense of comfort. As I said, the best pub in Hamburg is an Irish pub. The best pub in Paris was an Irish pub.

It's good to see to see how the locals go out for a night and a bit of difference can be great. But it's also good to have a bit of familiarity too. It doesn't always have to be that way and one doesn't cancel out the other either.

That's not to say that they're all great. They majority will be diddly aye plastic paddy bollocks. But you do get the odd gem.