Australia Rejects Recognition of Aboriginals - For Shame

A completely different setup: they were there for 60,000 years before the Brits arrived etc

IIRC when the Brits landed in Tasmania, there were the first additions to t island =for 50,00 years and they were slaughtered to extinction

RE the OP

My late father had even stronger views about Aussies from his visits there - uncouth, ignorant, intolerant, boorish and loud were his terms to describe them.

!00% agree with that and am disappointed with the outcome but not surprised.. better stop before I get banned

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Please point out of the map one of your non racist countries? Does such an earthy paradise exist?

They held a referendum, you don't have to like the result, but neither should you shít down on them from up there on your high horse.

Same as if we held a referendum on whatever, we would not appreciate people with next to no knowledge or insight commenting on our national character.

The "travelling community"

Oh for god sake it's like have an argument with a 6 year old just pull the race card when any real discussion is opened that you don't have a real intellectual input into the conversation.

I'm not racist my wife is black and of non Irish descent if that helps.

Australia is considered to be deeply racist how would you know ? Read it on a Facebook post were you ever actually there ?

Or did you just meet a a girl down the pub who was there in a working holiday visa 10 years ago.

You started a post here to discuss the decision by the country if you don't like the opinions fair enough I don't like many of them either.

But the labelling of people as racist in order to emphasise your argument is pure childish

Just because someone doesn't agree with your ideals doesn't mean that they are racist

No. I'm saying that there have been lesser known, basically less famous, massacres and land-stealing of indigenous peoples in other parts of the world past and present.

What do these people get for their troubles?

No one in Ireland knows or cares if you are a pygmy who had their land stolen by Bantu-speaking farming peoples. That's tough luck and it must be a lonely life for a persecuted minority in a country with no local equivalent of colonial guilt (with recompense) and no appeal to white Westerners to intervene, even if only rhetorically.

Have you ever met austrilians ? Horrible people

OP was in Australia for a month twenty years ago. That surely qualifies them to speak with complete authority on the motivations of the people who voted no and tar an entire country as racist.

You couldn't make it up. I think people are getting more stupid every day.

Actually that's the problem, they've no respect for the people whose country it really is.

Commonwealth of Thieves.

Our "recognition" of travellers is utterly meaningless. Just window dressing for the world. Yeah whoop de doo, Inda and Official Ireland and the usual quangos/lobby groups can administer themselves a pat on the back.

What's changed? Fcuk all.

The Aussies are a strange lot. Not the most likeable of people generally.

Who cares what you think

Are the Maori treated any better in New Zealand?

We might see Travellers as native Irish but there is also view that they are second class citizens who dont deserve equal treatment. While treatment of aboriginals was worse, for the most part Irish people have no respect for Travellers and the idea that Irish people are disgusted with how vote went is a bit ironic.

I'd agree on the Irsrael treatment of Palestinians. It's clear Israel view Palestinians as subhuman and not deserving of human rights or even existing at this stage.

There is a sizeable portion of people, especially in rural ireland, who do care if your background is black, brown, a traveller or Muslim.

I've travelers in my ancestry, but trying to compare traveler issues here now with what happened in oz is a gross disservice to aboriginals.

Travelers, itinerant workers were part of the Irish agrarian landscape going back centuries, millennia. Aboriginals on the other hand were treated like part of the flora and fauna and not as human. Currently the middle of the road attitude in Oz is to tell aboriginal peoples to suck it up and get over it, yet the terrible abuses of the past heavily impact these communities in the present.

Middle Australia is an extremely money obsessed nation so when aboriginals talk about the trauma the reaction usually jumps to "how much compo do they want?". It was the same during the native title debates where suburban voters were having meltdowns that the abos were going to take their lawns when all it was a partshare in the exploitation of traditional tribal lands.

Do the Aborigines commit as much crime as Irish Travellers?

Is there a large percentage of them in prison?

I heard during the week that a poll had up to 40% of Indigenous Australians voting No.

The premise polled very well initially, but as details or should I say, lack of details emerged, more and more people turned against it.

The issue was seen as elitist, and the number coming out confirmed that.

Only Canberra and some wealthy suburbs in Sydney and the like voted for 'Yes'. The rest of the nation, especially working class areas voted 'No'.