"I started a joke, that started the whole world ......" | Ireland v New Zealand.

Not true,if SA Nz and fran and england all played their best against Irelands best I’d say they all beat Ireland.

also Nz didn’t play their best last night,and lost two players to yellow cards.maybe it’s time to face up to the music and agree Ireland aren’t anywhere near as good as their fans seem to think.its proven every single time on the world stage.thats not a coincidence

Reducing that 80minute titanic battle with that much at stake involving that many players to an 'acceptsble term' is simply nonsense and displays a lack of understanding of sport by those who wish the argument to align so - most likely to accommodate their own inability to be able to analyse sport events. I wish the 'bottlers'/ 'chokers' name calling brigade would set up their own thread and go off worship Eamon Dunphy/Pat Spillane/ Colm O Rourke/ etc. - individuals who cover up their inability to analyse their sports with name calling on players and teams. 13 nil down and pulling the game back to a 1 point deficit within the same half is not the sign of bottlers or whatever that terms means.

Magnificent spectacle of sporting brilliance last night in a match (now that's a key term) involving two teams, where one has to lose. Unfortunately it was our team.

You've more or less proven why people are complaining about the draw, how is it that we are in a position where a QF is far more competitive than a likely SF in not one but 2 cases in this RWC.

People don't seem to be able to distinguish between the extraordinary effort the team and management put into last night indeed the last four years and asking the simple questions of what happened and what shouldn't happen again etc

Ireland were gifted two of the softest tries you’ll ever see NZ concede. Last night was a massive opportunity, and our boys let it pass them by. They were handicapped by only having 6 in the pack, but overall, a bottle job.

The yellow for deliberate knock on was a marginal call and if we had received it would have gone bonkers. The shoulder to Aki was inexplicable and a step backwards for player safety similar to the Welsh game. I suspect if we had played with 14 players for 20 mins the result would have been more conclusive and reflected the actual component parts of the game we came up short in. Moments which summed up last night there was a ball out and Bealim I think took that moment to check and it was lost then Beirne got a ball at the end and just stood still momentarily. The lack of fluidity was the challenge.

The draw was done in 2019 as far as i'm concerned as that was what the seedings were based on. It was inevitable and what annoyed me is even before this RWC the draw was done too early but even if it was done at the end of 2020, like in normal cases, France or Ireland would have joined SA/NZ in pot 1 ensuring that the risk of such a lopsided draw was nullified. The draw in future needs to be done a year or so out, the reasons given to not do this are nonsensical, having a draw a year or so out works in football it works in rugby. At work I explained to one of my Arab work colleagues who isn't a rugby fan at all the situation of the draw and she almost laughed at it, if she can see how nonsensical this draw is then World Rugby have no excuses.