Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

I wonder why the government have had to bring in this rule, hmmmm!!!

200 Ukrainians coming into Ireland everyday too. Kerry are saying they're full too...Donegal CoCo were saying this last year too but they're still cramming them in.

Still my poor special needs children are being left high and dry without services, both at home and school. 200 special needs children waiting to get into the local centre that run clubs and classes for special needs children.

Mismanaging funds is what this government should be done for!

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41247754.html

We are so generous 🙂

https://gript.ie/ireland-gives-highest-welfare-payments-in-eu-to-ukrainians/

What evidence have you of this?

If anything, by creating an environment of freebies with no questions asked beyond "have you the right passport?", we have more likely created a culture of dependency and entitlement.

When the time comes to give back, or when times get harder they are likely to just do what many others before them did - go home or elsewhere.

Your last line is precisely why this is so serious.

I know the usual advocates will write that off as melodramatic or similar - anything to distract/deflect from the truth of it really, but that's exactly what it is.. Truth.

As much as the majority of posters on this thread can see what's coming, it'll be our children who'll have to live with the consequences far longer and in far more immediate terms than we will.

The lack of resources that we are already seeing - the results of will be even more prevalent in coming years, the societal and security problems that we see in the UK, France, Germany and elsewhere are not things we'll escape (as some seem to think), the REAL racism and divisions along cultural and religious lines that is also growing in those places will similarly rear their heads here, and politically - well we're already in a period of fractured and divisive politics. That'll only get worse too as we've again already seen elsewhere.

The Ireland our children will be adults in will not be the same generally welcoming and easy going country we have experienced. It'll be a far colder, fragmented and poorer environment (it arguably already is for many, and that corporation tax we depend on to shore up our balance sheet and provide jobs for hundreds of thousands of people is already under threat) that many will indeed be forced to leave to have any chance of a future - just like their older relatives had to.

Those who remain will be forced to live with the fallout of this Great Experiment which again is already clear to see elsewhere. We just aren't as far down the path but make no mistake, the seeds that have been sown in the last 20 years will bear the same bitter fruit in the next 20.

It's inevitable at this point.

Sounds slightly iffy to me and as if they can't wait to get rid of the Ukrainians, especially this part : "The situations of vulnerable people would be examined on a case-by-case basis, while the overall procedure would be modelled on that governing the returns of asylum seekers.

Voluntary departures should be carried out independently and by land. Forced returns by air must be the last resort."

Yes we all know what the banks did

“ we have to give them what we give our citizens “

that was and is still the mantra…

there was us thinking they were just here, for ‘protection’….

Or in other cases a ‘way out’ of difficulty…..the reality is they are getting a shîtload more then most Irish people in difficulty. And not having to wait as long either ..

We’ve put ourselves more in the shop window for other ‘potential’ refugees…

You’ve been saying they’ll all go home. Now you’re saying they’re a worthwhile investment. Which is it like?

Well by the time that comes around there will be a new cause du jour and that will be all that matters for the next five minutes. Don’t forget to update your avatar to so everyone knows you are part of the hive mind!

Passerby pensioner stabbed to death by a migrant outside an asylum centre. It just shows migrants rights are being put above public safety yet again.

It's understandable in that Helen and her fellow travellers believe that we need immigration. This is their position and their policy.

A political party with a central policy to control immigration would do very well in the next election here. It's a popular theme across many/ most/ all other EU states. And a mystery why none of the larger parties here haven't seized the opportunity yet. What are they waiting for?

He does appear not capable .

Things aren't the same as they were 2 years ago when we were dealing with around 7000 people and now its going to be over 100,000 by the end of the year.

I can't understand why left leaning people refuse to admit that the situation is unstainable.

Anyway who cares what the media think.

Not gonna happen. Hard core FG rightwingers likely to lose seats all over, folks like Charlie Flanagan are not even going to run next time out.

SF going to lead a big push for a left coalition, immigration simply not an issue, bar the failure to provide enough housing for them.

David McWilliams has written a few interesting articles in the last year about the prospects of a rise in support for right wing populist parties in Ireland - and he thinks they could successfully use immigration and the housing crisis to garner support. He points out though that they tend to be terrible in government and make a mess of things e.g. Trump and the Johnson/Truss/Sunak version of the Tories.