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Plumber (50s) dies after possible electrocution accident at Dublin house

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  • #2
    Sleeper12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    It's very sad. Very difficult time for his family and indeed the family of the home he was working in



  • #3
    Tom44
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭Tom44


    I've got a shock more than once when the neutral had power going to it, mix up somewhere, but boiler still works ( oil ) if neutral and live are in wrong connections,

    It will work, but not isolated live when clock is turned off.


    Condolences to family



  • #4
    Yellow_Fern
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    Condolences to family too. I wonder what do you think happened? What is the highest risk in this line of work? Copper pipes being electrified? Drilled into a live wire?



  • #5
    John.G
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,623 ✭✭✭John.G


    What is particularly deadly is a broken neutral and if you catch both ends then the RCD/RCBO will not trip although they often don't trip if you touch a live only.



  • #6
    sugarman20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭sugarman20


    Really sad story. From what I heard someone came home and didn't realise he was there and turned the power on.



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  • #7
    Wearb
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,378 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wearb


    Depending on the job at hand, stick the fuse in your pocket and/or lock off the breaker. There's cheap gadgets for doing this.

    Please follow site and charter rules. "Resistance is futile"



  • #8
    warrior00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭warrior00


    I used to be an electrician and was working on a new build house and unknown to me someone further up the site had an extension lead plugged in and I flipped off the RCD and went to working away and that fella came in again unknown to me and flipped it back on and I got one hell of a rattle. I was working upstairs on wooden floors(maybe that helped I'm not sure). But anyway after that day I would wire it off or put insulation tape on so someone would see it was switched off for a reason.



  • #9
    Sleeper12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    This is the reason that the isolation switch or spur has to be within 2 meters of the appliance. You should never rely on the trip switch although if isolation switch is knackered (this happens with showers often) there isn't much of an option.



  • #10
    10-10-20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,071 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    John Ward has a good video on broken neutral on a TN-C-S supply. I'm not saying that it was a factor here, but it's one of the hazards of plumbing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRHyqouJPzE

    RIP to the plumber and condolences to their family.



  • #11
    10-10-20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,071 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    I actually linked to the wrong video from John Ward yesterday, the correct one is here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nEsrlLpOzs&t=11s

    And the follow-up is here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fen8ekrhlBI




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  • #12
    Phil.x
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    Rip to that man.


    It could have been the fused spur wired wrong, neutral into the live and live into the neutral, and with that even if you remove the fuse the plant is still live with an isolated neutral.



  • #13
    bmc58
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭bmc58


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121242609#Comment_121242609

    Oh my god.



  • #14
    Madd002
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭Madd002


    DH nearly was a gonner last week, foreman using scanner must've missed services below them, our son was driving a pin down with sledgehammer but didn't have enough power so his dad took over had his hand on bar to hit it twice took hand away to do final drive and bang blew the power I think for miles around. Esb guys said he must've 9 lives they've seen guys die from less, look at hole it blew in the steel.

    IMG-20231011-WA0001.jpg




  • #15
    Madd002
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭Madd002


    RIP to that guy, you never know what's ahead of you.



  • #16
    salmocab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Lock out tag out is the way to go, fairly standard on bigger sites now. A lockout fitting is very cheap and stick a pad lock on it. It seems like overkill in a house until you hear about something like this.



  • #17
    tnegun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭tnegun


    I think lock out tag plus a clamp meter, I'm pretty safety conscious and would have thought I knew enough to stay safe but maybe its enough for false confidence after watching the videos linked above.



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