"I started a joke, that started the whole world ......" | Ireland v New Zealand.

We had Scotland beaten by half time. That was nor a tough test. It wasn't as easy as NZ's runout against a putrid Italy, but a tough game it was not.

NZ would have qualified from our pool, we'd have qualified from theirs.

You can't seriously be using the pool draws as an excuse for Ireland losing to NZ?

FFS, you clearly didn’t watch. It was a hard physical game from a team who didn’t lie down despite the score.

Hansen and Lowe got injured in it. Hansen having to have a HIA too.

It was so intense at a point it boiled over into a shamoozle.

Much more sapping than anything NZ went through.

I am no more using it as an excuse. We lost because on the day NZ were better.

Before the day if you thought we were a better team that guaranteed us the win, that is your issue.

I certainly took nothing fir granted.

It a complete and utter exaggeration.

Yes.

Because NZ are a class top team and took their chances. Did somebody convince you they were not capable of scoring? We were a point behind them at halftime anyway.

Also not achieveable by headless chickens.

They weren’t.

It has been proven to you they couldn’t possibly have done what they did if they were but still you insist with a lie.

FFS Two other top teams went toe to toe and scored sgainst each other in the Fra v SA game. Where the hell did you get the notion NZ were not likely to score. Preposterous bullshit.

Goodnight

Watching the match back, we were far better with ball in hand than NZ for the majority of the game. They struggled to make any ground against our defense, whereas we managed multiple times to make inroads into their 22 from deep. Such narrow margins.

JGP made some poor decisions at key times when we were pressing unfortunately.

The amount of forward passes not pinged is off the scale. It's a bit of a joke at this stage just like a lot of rugby laws. Every ref has his own set of rules afaics.

Waste a time. There are posters who will pin choker/bottler based off even one criterion: we lost.. many who probably didn’t even watch the match..

The david Beckham documentary on Netflix. Real Madrid started having bad run of results, the manager said it was the other sides raising their game against the favourites ...

I've just seen the new rankings, Ireland 3rd. Behind nz and sa. If we just adopt the " throw the baby out with the bathwater " approach its risky. We really want to be in the top seeds or the challenge becomes much bigger...

Heard an experienced front rower (James Tracey) go through this one. In his view Porter was 100% legal. His view was the NZ loose head was stepping out a little with the aim to cause Porter to angle in on the opposite side. Furlong held square however and did not fall for it and Ireland got the shove on. NZ knew however that Porter's bind looks odd even when its legal. So they painted a picture for Barnes and he fell for it. Probably teed up with a dossier sent in during the week. It was planted in Barnes head that Porter could be illegal in the scrum and when a picture was presented that looked a bit odd up goes the arm.

That first penalty was crucial. Correct decision there was penalty to Ireland and we would have been 3-0 up.

Here is analysis from a retired International LH Prop. He would have said the second one was a penalty to NZ though. Picture was already painted from the first though. Ireland knew they have to change the picture from the first one so were probably thinking what they needed to do differently and the NZ LH got the push on Furlong. Porter was still legal though.