Cult of Stephen Kenny

That's farcical. So Greece get nothing for outplaying Ireland home and away!?

so what? thats just the way it is.

Touchy. Are you alright?

Yeah it is cruel. It all comes down to League of Nations rankings.

Greece need to finish 2nd to qualify. We actually dont want to win v Netherlands to ensure they finish 2nd ... a remote possibility I know.

I switched over to the Dutch game as both teams had qualification at stake.

Correct it just shows how useless the FAI are that the greyhound lobby can get more money from the Govt

People need to wake up and see where the real problem is, I know it is rolled out alot but it is true, the LOI could be such a strong league if people actually supported it instead of giving their money to Premier League clubs who dont care about them

he was done after greece away. everything after that was irrelevant. get the next two games done then spend some time mulling over a new man for the job

I think that scenario was more needed had the Dutch not won last night.

I think we just need the Dutch to come 2nd. After the Dutch win last night against Greece, they just need to do better than Greece from their remaining two games as both have 12 points.

Greece play France on the 21st November, and the Dutch play us next 18th and Gibraltar on the 21st.

I don't know about that no LOI manager getting the nod. Isn't Duffer up among the favourites for the role if/when Kenny goes?

I'd highly doubt that. He won't get it and nor should he.

We need to go for a manager who won't try and get a group of players to win matches in a system they cannot play.

The minimum requirement will be to be in the reckoning for a playoff coming into the last two games of the group. The players are good enough to do that.

There is of chance of a playoff.

Be patient lads. Stephen will get it right in the next campaign.

Can people actually acknowledge the real problem, then things can move forward.

Irish football is on its knees and have no players coming through (Ferguson is a total exception). If you think it is bad now, in 5 years time it could be worse and even the best manager in the world would do well to get Ireland to 3rd in a qualfying group. Add to that, the FAI has no money, so they will either be looking at a league one standard manager or someone who has retired and will come out of retirement for a handy gig (Steve Bruce)

The future is bleak and unless people put their energies into the real problem instead of the superficial "manager is the problem" then Ireland will keep descending into the lower depths of European football

Its been disappointing but this is needlessly melodramatic.

You are vastly over-estimating the influence of an international manager if you think that a week every two month for two or three years is going to set a player back four to six years.

For what it's worth, I don't think Kenny was regressive. He tried to get the players playing a style of football that didn't suit them. He should have adapted and been more pragmatic but its not like he was training them poorly or coaching them in antiquated methods. As far as I can recall, he hasn't had major fallings out with players so its not like they are traumatised from playing under him.

The players will go back to their day-to-day regime at their clubs and when a new manager comes in for the national team, they'll get a new philosophy and a new approach and they'll forget about Stephen Kenny. And the long-term issues in Irish football, such as a struggling national league, poor in-country youth development, the bankrupted national association and an over-reliance on foreign systems, will continue to be ignored.