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Frasier sequel ordered to series **Spoilers**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,631 ✭✭✭squonk


    Restaurant or theatre is exactly where it needed to go. The are such snobs that it would be comedy gold. Also with a tgestre especially there is so much potential for external characters for a wise or even short arcs while a play is in town. It would things the fresh.

    Far point made that it night get old quickly but bit as quickly as the current setup will get old I reckon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    I watched 2 episodes and I didn't laugh once.



  • Registered Users Posts: 555 ✭✭✭JeffreyEpspeen




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,453 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Would it, though? Like, you'd be taking an idea for an episode they actually made and extending it for a whole season or several seasons. I can see it getting very stale very quickly. That said, Kelsey and David back together would have been a significant improvement on what we actually got so there's that.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,221 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Such a performance is a journey of discovery. This brief rehearsal time that was given is - was far too short to reach...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,816 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    You're not meant to laugh. It's a programme where renowned psychiatrist Dr. Frasier Crane of Harvard Medical School attempts to help people with their personal problems. Even the ones he has caused.

    Do you laugh at Dr Phil???

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,221 ✭✭✭saabsaab




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,631 ✭✭✭squonk


    Far point. I don’t remember that episode and you’re very probably right but it would still be better than what we’re getting now For me, one of the really funny things about the original was Niles and Frasier tag teaming against what lore Brie stuff Martin wanted That or Niles and Frasier ratcheting each other up over different things I don’t see much oriented for that with the current setup



  • Registered Users Posts: 555 ✭✭✭JeffreyEpspeen


    DHP gets lots of plaudits for his physical acting but Grammer was good at that aul stuff as well; great at acting with his body.

    My favourite behind the scenes story is how Grammer would always arrive at filming out of his tits on drugs and alcohol and everyone would be like "oh no". Then the director would say action and he'd knock every single line out of the park with his first take.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Actually the theatre, yes, Sometimes in the weaker Frasier episodes, a call-in to the radio show could save the episode. The theatre setting allows scope for the bizarre and the beautiful "celebs to us", being absolutely hilarious.

    Now that that has been mentioned, Im even more disappointed, in that, is the characters we have been introduced to thus far, is that it?

    I think my favourite Frasier call in was John Lithgow, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK1jek2EggQ



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭LambshankRedemption




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Do you laugh at Dr Phil???

    Yes, every time. Mostly cuz of that head on him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,816 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I read that John Lithgow was in the running for the part of Frasier Crane back in Cheers.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Couild have worked. I mostly know him as the Trinity Killer in Dexter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,816 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    He did comedy role on TV in Third Rock from the Sun... probably more scope in that role for his exuberant acting.

    He and Kelsey Grammer swept the best comedy actor awards at Emmys between 1994 - 99 with three wins each.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I know that. I just never got into 3rd Rock. He can clearly do comedy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,631 ✭✭✭squonk


    That John Lithgow call made me really laugh. It just proves the point really that an ok Woodside could be elevated by a 90 second hilarious clip like that. For a comedy that really knew its stuff back in the day, it’s terrible to see them fall blindly into the overused US sitcom trap of an apartment set, a work desk set and a bar/restaurant set that are used in each episode.

    Back in the day I enjoyed shows like Caroline In The City but even then it kind of stale because you only saw her living room and no matter who she was meeting for a date they always went to her local cafe. I see this version of Frasier falling into the same trap. The only way those limited set shows work is if one set is a vibrant place like a work area. They might get away with the bar but it seems like a place for Freddy and his friends.

    On thinking about this note I’m coming to the conclusion it’s nite about grabbing ratings and subscriptions and a pay check for KG than an earnest attempt to reboot the show. I think DHP declining to return all but says this and you have to respect him cheer turning down easy money when he could have just shown up on set and gone through the motions. The trouble is that audiences see through this now as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,087 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    some of you may enjoy this animated remake of "My Coffee with Niles"




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,745 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    S1E3 is out and it's hard not to enjoy seeing Kelsey Grammer on the screen. It's also a little hard to get into the new Frasier as enthusiastically as with the old, the quality of cast is variable and KG stands head and shoulders above the rest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,598 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Very much so, supporting cast doing nothing fir me, more an intrusion



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,459 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Re-watched the 2nd episode last night and actually thought it stood up, if not even better, than first watch which was surprised about. Enjoy the mirroring of original series. Definitely some classic Frasier writing in there (the yak mattresses), and while the other new characters dont really appeal, im definitely lot more positive about it than before.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,453 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I'll watch the third episode this evening.

    To be honest, the younger cast members' acting reminds me of Family Guy cutaways parodying US sitcoms.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭onrail


    It pains me to say, but two episodes in, I find this really...bad... And I loved the OG Frasier.

    As someone said above, it seems like a forgettable us sitcom with obvious jokes, hammed up acting and canned laughter that's too loud and intrusive.

    I'll keep going out of stubbornness, but little hope for improvement.



  • Registered Users Posts: 555 ✭✭✭JeffreyEpspeen


    I keep wondering how bad American actors <30 must be if British actors like the one playing adult Freddy keep glomming roles like this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,631 ✭✭✭squonk


    Is the actor playing Freddy British? Wouldn’t have realised. Time was though that UK actors were cheap hence UK actors being the addies in a lot of 80s movies. Wonder if it’s still the case and it’s a move to keep costs in check rather than a reflection in the quality of similar US actors.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Sophie Sweet Yearbook


    Supposedly the reviews/people in the live audience say it gets better from the 4th episode on


    Im wondering if the premise of the show was based on his Dr Crane TV show - a show within a show - wouldve it been better



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I was watching an old episode of Frasier the other night and realised there is a laughter track on it. Never noticed before, but only because the laughter track was mentioned on here in regard to the laughter track being too loud and intrusive, which I agree with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,598 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    Most comedy shows of that time (if not all) had a laughter track unless my memory is failing me - just checked some old Only Fools youtube clips, all had the laughter track but the comedy was so good you were also laughing. Alas Frasier has only made me smile so far

    10 Great TV Comedy Shows Made Worse By Laugh Tracks (screenrant.com) (Frasier is in the list)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I was just thinking, I probably didnt notice the laughter track because I was laughing at the same time. Even old Frasier episodes Ive watched a dozen times still make me laugh. As you say alas the new Frasier has at best only made me chuckle a couple of times. And when the laughter track is recorded with someone in the audince finding it hilarious its both grating and noticeable.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,453 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I.. enjoyed the third episode. At least more than the first two. I think the reason is that it's focused on the older cast members with the youngsters getting barely any screentime. Also, there's a cat. It's still giving off "Kelsey needs money for a swimming pool" vibes but this one's an improvement IMO. Sadly, I think the younger cast members are locked in so this may have been a blip.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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