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Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

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  • Registered Users Posts: 83,033 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    No longer visiting Jordan at all




  • Registered Users Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Fuascailteoir


    The scenes from the bombings in Rafah in that clip are horrific. Israel is clearly out of control and needs to be restrained immediately




  • Posts: 13,688 Kenya Late Timekeeper


    Gigi Hadid posts a perfectly reasonable message on her Instagram.

    The OFFICIAL & VERIFIED StateOfIsrael account decided to take the time, during a war, to reply in the most psychotic way...




  • Registered Users Posts: 21,637 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    It's all too familiar.

    When you think that it's illegal in many prominent countries, to March to advocate for the rights of Palestinian civilians, while Israel slaughters people in a **** hospital, it's a very dark time for the human race.

    There's kids in Gaza right now who will fire rockets in to Israel in ten years thinking of events like yesterday and Israel will shrug its shoulders and say 'we are entirely blameless and are being persecuted because we are Jews'.

    It's good to see many Jewish people, and Israelis come out strongly to blame Nethanyahu for what is happening right now.

    It's so depressing, many praising the IDF and giving Israel carte blanche to do what it wants will in a couple if weeks be screaming about radical terrorists invading Europe without a hint of irony of how Israel portrays itself in Arab eyes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭dennis72


    If Israel hit the hospital it would be an own goal or even if it was hamas they control the ground

    I think with Biden on his way for a meeting that has wrecked any chance of a peace.

    They can even say the hostages were There

    Don't think Iran wants any peace with Israel



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,780 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    You're making an assumption it was Israel without any evidence, unless of course you have some the worlds intelligence services know nothing about.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Israel says it will release multiple layers of evidence to prove that Hamas was responsible.

    Perhaps we should wait for that evidence before jumping to firm conclusions.



  • Registered Users Posts: 83,033 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    They’re taking their sweet time fabricating it so. Out in 2 weeks



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,780 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    Do you know something no one else knows or are you just jumping to conclusions?



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Well looks like the claims made last night by several individuals that Israel bombed a hospital last night has been pretty much debunked, in the morning light it looks like a fire in a car park caused by a fail rocket attack against Israel ,

    Here's the exact location of the fire after the failed attack on Israel, notice the lack of remains despite the claims here last night of 1000 dead and countless others injured




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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,619 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Truth really does suffer in war.

    Both sides claiming it was the other, and the way the Internet is now, doesn't matter if 100% accurate proof is produced, the followers on both sides will never believe it was their fault.



  • Posts: 13,688 Kenya Late Timekeeper


    Israel have already tweeted their evidence...

    then deleted it.

    Tweeted more evidence...

    then deleted that too.

    Tweeted a video of a 'Hamas rocket misfiring'...

    Whoopsie-doodle, timestamp doesn't match up, deleted that too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Of course not, that would mean people having to admit that they were wrong ,

    If was amusing to watch the feeding frenzy and now those who stayed level headed which are in a minority on here will now watch as the excuses come thick and fast



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,517 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    What do you think the odds are, of the dozens of posters here who claimed it was Israel launched the horrific attack on the hospital, once it's proven that in fact it was Hamas or one of their lackeys who launched it, retracting their statements? It seems like instead of waiting for evidence they're lining up behind 'if Israel posts evidence, it's lies.'


    Funny how people never admit to being wrong.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭rock22


    I assume you think all these people committed suicide too , not killed by Israeli airstrike

    The link is to CNN. No doubt you will tell us that CNN is just part of Hamas



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,415 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    I said wait for more information as we get it.

    Israel must be delighted that they now look like the good guys and they can continue killing more innocent children on top of the 2000 kids in the last 10 days.


    What a disaster of a situation this whole Israel/Palestinian conflict is.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If the evidence presents itself that Israel was responsible for the attack, I will have no problem admitting it. It would be pretty sad to close my eyes and ears and blame Hamas just because I dislike Hamas.

    Let's see what evidence comes forward from both sides; that way we can come to concrete conclusions.

    Until then, I'm going to reserve judgement - which isn't something that anti-Israel people are willing to do. Their minds are already made up, even when all the evidence isn't on the table.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    IDF are currently holding a news conference, claiming that (from Sky News):

    A barrage of rockets was launched at 6.15pm by Hamas toward Israel.

    A barrage of 10 rockets was fired by the Islamic Jihad at 6.59pm.

    At that time there were reports of an explosion at the hospital.

    He accuses Hamas of launching a "global media campaign to hide what really happened".

    They have inflated the number of casualties, he says.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭SharkMX


    So was it a hospital or a car park that was bombed. The problem with the internet today is you cant actually get the truth from anyone about anything. People on social media feel they must support one side or the other in everything and then off they go posting.

    Im still trying to find out if it was really a car park that caught fire (The cars in that photo) dont seem to be moved, just burned, so not a big enough explosion to kill 500 people in the hospital. If thats the damage, what killed 500 people in the hospital? Are the pictures of the car park real? Are there any pictures of the hospital?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,427 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    What does the supposed drone footage prove?

    Nothing.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    I for one would love to admit im wrong and potentially could be based on what’s released so far.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19 muob


    Don't try deflecting from the situation It was a HOSPITAL that was hit caused directly by IDF who now are trying to pin the blame on others - cowards as well as bullies and mass murderers



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭rogber


    I meant people on this thread, the excitement is palpable in some cases



  • Registered Users Posts: 19 muob


    Lies lies lies from Israel re pinning blame on other groups for hospital attack.

    Nothing new there

    Meanwhile have still refused point blank to turn back on water supplies 💧 🚿 🚰 to over 2.3Mn and have denied there is any humanitarian crisis there 🙄



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,042 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Will this misfire by Hamas of a rocket turn the Palestine citizens against them....it will be interesting to see what happens next



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    No just according to hamas 2800 are dead ,the same hamas who said 1000 people was killed in Israel airstrike against a hospital,the same hamas who said that they didn't kill any civilians in the massive terrorist attack last week,they also didn't kidnapp any people.

    So yes according to Hamas holds a lot of water.....



  • Registered Users Posts: 843 ✭✭✭m2_browning


    What a **** show

    both this pointless war started by islamists and … this thread

    bonus points to silly arguments over what day it is, FML



  • Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭dennis72


    The truth of what happened here makes difference to Palestinians who remain whether against their will or not, they are victims of a war escalated/started by hamas and proxies to Iran who want to wipe out Israel so they can be a superpower in the region.

    Hamas must be defeated or it will do the same again their victory would be if the west backed away and Russia and China prosper from its chaos.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Are you saying Hamas wouldn't do such a thing ???



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