Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

robwen · 18-10-2023 1:15pm

https://twitter.com/TheAnfieldWrap/status/1714519941318103312?t=NjbOcl9GQeEwcZ-mi0cBTA&s=19

https://twitter.com/TheAnfieldWrap/status/1714552899106181207?t=xvOUH4_YzPlOhv5QrpNmnw&s=19

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Ottoman_1000 · 18-10-2023 2:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121254750#Comment_121254750

Done extremely well for both. Great headed finish for the goal, and great hold up with clever play and lay off for the assist. More of that please Darwin and we will be good....

Electric Nitwit · 18-10-2023 4:26pm

That assist can only be described as "Darwin". Brilliant, but crazy 🤣

atilladehun · 18-10-2023 8:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121252875#Comment_121252875

Yep, the 3pm blackout needs to end.

Also Ireland living under the rules of British broadcasting rules needs to end too. I know we get one game at 3pm on Saturday but it's time we were like every other independent country in the world and show every game.

Fitz* · 18-10-2023 9:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121256825#Comment_121256825

I'd guess we'd need RTE or someone like that to bid on the rights to show them here, and pay top dollar for that. Which won't happen as the customer base to have worthwhile return isn't there. I guess we have the 3pm game, plus the UK ones, so it ain't the worst really.

~Rebel~ · 19-10-2023 8:31am

Fair play to Mo, putting out a public video plea for aid and support to Gaza.

Fitz* · 19-10-2023 11:28am

Gakpo back in training big boost to have an extra attacker again, even if it's from the bench.

Riesen_Meal · 19-10-2023 2:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121258469#Comment_121258469

Just about to post this, huge boost for the match 🙂

theoneeyedman · 19-10-2023 2:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121256899#Comment_121256899

We should be separate from the UK.

The old excuse of the spillover from the 28E satellite is no longer valid really.

robwen · 19-10-2023 3:01pm

Missing from training apparently;

Andy Robertson, Ben Doak, Thiago & Stefan Bajcetic

Thiago has now been out for 6 months

The Rooster · 19-10-2023 3:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121259406#Comment_121259406

Bajcetic nearly as long, bar a brief couple of cameos.

May not see Robbo until Christmas. Big few weeks for Kostas

Tommysocks11 · 19-10-2023 3:12pm

Feck sake, thiago is some sick note, hopefully we offload him soon to free up wages for Andre or whoever, a great player when fit but christ he's always injured

giveitholly · 19-10-2023 9:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121246991#Comment_121246991

Will it even open this season

https://twitter.com/ShaunP471n0/status/1715063627550486985?t=5y3xScpDdWixXKKuAVpCzQ&s=19

Enzokk · 20-10-2023 7:39am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121261031#Comment_121261031

We really got screwed by the contractor here. I don't know if they were the lowest bidder and this is why the work is shoddy in places, but its not like they were a fly-by-night either. I can see that they may have started taking shortcuts once they knew their financial situation was precarious, but the end result is we have a stand that seems to have serious issues in areas and this is costing the club money but more importantly it is screwing fans who bought tickets in the stand that was supposed to be completed already.

Fitz* · 20-10-2023 10:07am

I think that the next 4 games could kind of end up defining our season. Because of how the fixtures have fallen so far, we find ourselves in the top 4, but have played more difficult games than the other clubs in the top 4.

These are the fixtures played by each of the top 4 so far;

The main difference I can see is that Spurs have played the bottom 4 teams, and beaten them all, whereas the other clubs have only played 1 or 2. Arsenal & Man City have played a lot of teams in the middle of the table and Liverpool have played the majority of their games in the top third of the table. Arsenal have a different ratio of H:A games than the 3 others too.

The big thing for Liverpool is the next 5 games, where 4 of the clubs are lingering above the relegation zone, and really should all be beaten. We have to take advantage of this run of fixtures, before the Man City game after the next international break.

Have to be taking 12 points from 12 IMO, and even just work in somewhat of a buffer, at least. Winning all 4 games will set down a marker and say that Liverpool want to challenge for the title. Any draw and it confirms that top 4 is the height of the season ambitions in the league I reckon.

The likes of Szobozlai, Nunez, MacAllister etc were all bought to beat these type of teams, home and away. Time to do it now.

Ottoman_1000 · 20-10-2023 11:50am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121262190#Comment_121262190

Just discussing this with the lads in work, the next 4 games will define our ambitions this season. 12 points from them could put us top going into the next international window due the teams around us having more difficult opposition or else just taking points off each other. A huge amount depends on tomorrow though, if we don’t play well or take all 3 points, then this could have a knock-on affect on those next 3 fixtures. I would really love a comfortable 2 goal win with a decent performance and give us a platform to go to town over the next few weeks.

giveitholly · 20-10-2023 12:36pm

Andy Robertson requires surgery on his shoulder

robwen · 20-10-2023 12:48pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121262772#Comment_121262772

Looking at around 3 months out

giveitholly · 20-10-2023 12:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121262839#Comment_121262839

At least I reckon

Ottoman_1000 · 20-10-2023 2:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121262839#Comment_121262839

A big blow, Robbo has been nowhere near his best this season, but unfortunately the drop off in standard to replace him is stark. Tsimikas after a promising first few years was really poor last year, and he does not seem to have improved from what I’ve seen this season. Defensively he’s just not good enough, a massive few months required from him to see if he can get anyways back to some kind of form.

Fitz* · 20-10-2023 2:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121262585#Comment_121262585

Yeah that's it, when Liverpool are playing the 'easier' games over the next 4 weeks, other top 4 / top 6 clubs have trickier games against each other. We should be gaining ground over a couple of these clubs in the same time frame.

Chelsea v Arsenal

Man Utd vs Man City

Newcastle v Arsenal & Spurs v Chelsea

Chelsea v Man City

mosstin · 20-10-2023 3:18pm

When we start doing the 'get 12 points from the next 12' posts, I always feel that we'll screw up. Tomorrow worries me for a few reasons: returning from international break, Everton have found a BIT of form, our record in the early KO isn't great, Tsimikas in for Robbo. I know it's Everton and it's Anfield - hopefully we'll win 4-0 and I'll wonder about my negativity.

Ottoman_1000 · 20-10-2023 3:40pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121263589#Comment_121263589

Ya I get what you're saying, but at the end of the day, this Everton team will be fighting relegation when this season comes to a close. If we can't beat them tomorrow I think it could say more about us than them in the long run...

mosstin · 20-10-2023 4:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121263671#Comment_121263671

Absolutely, not arguing with any of that. Just a confluence of variables leaving me slightly uneasy. If we have designs on the title (unlikely) or Top 4 (very likely), we should send these away with their tails between their legs once again.

dmigsy · 20-10-2023 9:24pm

With Robertson out for a good while, I think I'd rather see Gomez playing than Tsimikas. Gomez has been in good form and Robertson has spent a lot of time this season effectively playing as a third centre back anyway.

.red. · 20-10-2023 9:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121265262#Comment_121265262

I've never been overly impressed with Tsimikas, Robertson rarely got rested, even when he looked burnt out and not up to his usual swashbuckling self which makes me think the backroom team thought the same. I think he signed a new contract recently and he wouldn't have gotten that if he didn't have something about him so who knows?

This is the scouser Greeks time to shine and prove me wrong. Very likable fella and I hope he shows he's up to it. The derby at home should be a good game for him to come into.

Girly Gal · 21-10-2023 7:09am

If Tsimikas is not good enough to fill in for Robertson, then he shouldn't be at the club, he's long enough at the club, so Klopp should know exactly what he's capable of and if worth keeping around, the fact he signed a new contract recently suggests Klopp thinks he's good enough. There is no point holding onto players who aren't able to fill in when required, every member of the squad when fit and available should be able to fill in when called upon.

dmigsy · 21-10-2023 7:24am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121266022#Comment_121266022

He's been mostly decent as an attacking left back and puts good crosses in but if he's being asked to play more defensively, as Robertson has been, I wouldn't have as much faith in him. We'll find out his level if he plays most games for the next few months.

Girly Gal · 21-10-2023 9:15am

Since Tsimikas has joined, he hasn't had any extended run in the team, so difficult to judge a player when he only plays the odd game or few minutes here and there. Most players tend to need a run of games to show their true form, similar to Jones at the end of last season and Gomez at the start of this season, when they started to play regularly their form improved. Klopp obviously thinks Tsimikas is good enough as he wouldn't ( or at least shouldn't) have him in the squad otherwise. We'll find out for certain if he's good enough over the next few months.

Fitz* · 21-10-2023 9:30am

Tsimikas coming in might result in a switch to the more traditional system that Klopp used to play.

One of the main reasons why Trent (and Gomez) starting inverting into midfield is because last season there was not enough legs in midfield to have control, energy, pressing or creativity and the extra player was needed. A lot of those characteristics are in the team again this season with MacAllister Szlobozai Gravenberch and Jones, so is there a need to invert as much?

When one full back inverts, the other has to hold back a bit. When you remove the need to invert, you can just return to the wing back system again. It's not ideal as MacAllister is not prime Fabinho but given the fixtures over the next 4 weeks, it's worth a try IMO.

theoneeyedman · 21-10-2023 9:33am

Kostas is an OK deputy for many games, but for any big games he's jot good enough. I'd be worried about a lad like him who is obviously #2 and not gonna displace Andy any time soon, signing a new, long term contract recently - he must have little ambition on a personal level.

What will happen is that he'll play a lot of the home games and the gsmes v the lower teams, and Gomez will play LB in the tougher games. Gomez will do a good job too, he stepped in there for a while a few years ago IIRC, around the time he broke his leg? It's a thankless task for Joe, he'll do well there but any goal conceded or error made he'll be castigate here and elsewhere even though again he'll be the square peg being forced to do the job in the round hole.... the role of the squad player I guess.

paulie21 · 21-10-2023 10:03am

Alisson, Alexander Arnold, Konate, Van Dijk, Tsimikas, Mac Allister, Szoboszlai, Gravenberch, Salah, Jota, Diaz

TitianGerm · 21-10-2023 10:32am

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1715676856840511726?t=MI_Rb_Axg-pxLaBQAQVM1Q&s=19

Gravenbach starts.

Vicxas · 21-10-2023 10:42am

Grav, Macallister and Sobo all start...

Oh yes, this is nice

Fitz* · 21-10-2023 10:45am

That's an awful defensive bench. Will need to win this early IMO.

hawaii501 · 21-10-2023 10:55am

Well nunez and elliot are game changers. Both have been excellent off the bench this season. Where is Doak?

TitianGerm · 21-10-2023 11:00am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121266533#Comment_121266533

Klopp said he has a slight issue in the press conference.

giveitholly · 21-10-2023 11:25am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121266533#Comment_121266533

Doak got injured on international duty

ShamoBuc · 21-10-2023 11:29am

That team should win. The bench looks pretty good in fairness, cover and game changers.

Any kind of a win will do, 4-0 and no injuries would be very nice 😁

BorneTobyWilde · 21-10-2023 11:29am

I predict 3 broken legs for Liverpool, and 2 sending offs for Liverpool, Everton , no cards.

Fitz* · 21-10-2023 11:33am

Aside from Nunez, there is no player on the bench that you would say is a front 3 player. Elliott can play there but he is not exactly a winger or inside forward. He's been good from the bench as a midfielder from the bench this season.

Nunez & Diaz are gonna be doing a bit of job sharing today I'd guess.

4 defenders & a DM on the bench from 8 outfielders