Domestic Solar PV Quotes 2022 - No PM requests - See Mod note post #1

con747 · 16-10-2023 8:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121247163#Comment_121247163

Very little if any benefit from bi facial on a roof as the panels are only a few inches away from it IMO. If no shading on the panels why do you need Optimisers? Either way it's expensive. If the company has an 8 in their name run away. Keep looking for better quotes.

I'll just throw in an edit here.

1 x SolarEdge Import / Export meter

1 x 4 Pole Fireman Switch

1 x Electrical Materials, Fuses, etc...

1 x Full Install and Grid Commission

1 x Wi-Fi Kit and Free Monitoring Portal for Life

All the above is what's needed so it's just trying to make people think look at the amount of stuff we are supplying. Way too much waffle and sales pitch in that quote.

DC999 · 16-10-2023 8:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234607#Comment_121234607

We've similar house usage per year as you. But get as large a system as 1) roof takes 2) wallet takes. A 3.5kWp system is small. Now we all get paid 20c in FIT for unused units, it helps the payback time. Plus I use solar to help heat parts of the house in winter. Plus we've an EV. Meaning we can use more electricity if available.

At the point in time we move to electric cars, heating (heat pumps), cooking...the large the solar 'engine' you have the less energy will cost you. So get the most amount of panels.

Bobeagleburger · 17-10-2023 1:04am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121247163#Comment_121247163

Rip off. Run a mile

chatb0x1 · 17-10-2023 10:26am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121247246#Comment_121247246

I have got 8 quotes so far - the most expensive offered the same hardware as this along with an 10kW SolarEdge Battery for over 8K.

advise is keep looking - im only starting to get get somewhere now

Im not sure if true but sales guys are telling me its busiest time they have had this yr.

rx8 · 17-10-2023 10:45am

https://www.chill.ie/blog/free-tickets-to-the-ideal-home-show/

The Ideal Homes show is on next weekend in the RDS, and that's where I found my installer. No doubt, there will be a host of them there again this year.

It was back in 2019, and solar was only starting to hit the market then. There were probably 10 or 12 booths flogging their wares at it, lots of spin and shiny brochures, but if you even do a small bit of research first, you can spot the cowboys a mile off. Only suggesting it as a way of obtaining numerous quotes that can be compared on the same day, instead of ringing/emailing and waiting for someone to get back to you. Lots of free tickets to be had online this week, if you look around a bit. Best of luck to anyone going.

niallo27 · 17-10-2023 11:31am

Hi all, what does everyone think of the below quote, I really havent a clue

To fit 430w Panels (1.1Mtr Wide x 1.8mtrs high)

A Solis inverter to change the power from DC to AC,

My Eddie diverter for the free hot water

Free Wi-Fi Monitoring,

25 Year Warrantee on the panels,

10 Year Warrantee on the Inverter,

10 Year warrantee on the battery,

BER Engineers Report after installation.

Our own engineers report to ensure a safe and effective installation.

All install costs including VAT @ 0.00% from the 1st of May ‘23.

Commissioning of the install with the ESB

The total Price 10 panels fitted to an East West split roof - € 9,795.00 – Less SEAI Grant of € 2,400.00 - € 7,395.00 - Less Deposit of 20% - € 1,500.00 - Leaving a final balance of € 5,895.00.

The total Price 12 panels fitted to an East West split roof - € 10,465.00 – Less SEAI Grant of € 2,400.00 - € 8,065.00 - Less Deposit of 20% - € 1,600.00 - Leaving a final balance of € 6,465.00.

deezell · 17-10-2023 12:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121249146#Comment_121249146

You don't give panel brand or battery capacity. Here's some sums to help you decide. The extra two panels adds €770, so €335 a panel, installation, cables and brackets included, or €3350 for 10. That leaves €6445. Solis Hybrid 5kw somewhere between €1000 and €1200 trade ex vat. Eddie €5-600. Another €250 for breakers, switches, Rcbs, cable, WiFi Dongle. 200-300 for the BER. Say €2200. That leaves €4455. How much is the battery in the window? Two 2.4kw pyelontech at €2000 say, leaving €2445, which buys at lot of electrician time (or maybe it doesn't) to mount the the inverter and battery boxes, install all DC and AC breakers and switches, and connect the panel tails from the panel install. Configure and test the inverter, batteries, and WiFi, and bobs you uncle. This €2445 is almost exactly the grant. Is it good value? Tbh, I'd expect those quotes to be net of the grant, so it seems decent enough to a point.

niallo27 · 17-10-2023 12:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121249419#Comment_121249419

There is no battery included, the quotes are before and after the grant. Does it seem excessive without a battery.

deezell · 17-10-2023 1:05pm

Yes, it's excessive. The breakdown now mean €3350 to supply and fit 10 panels, brackets and cables, near enough €2000 panel install labour, and without the battery, a whopping €4450 for the work to Install the Eddie and inverter. Also, without a battery, they're probably quoting for a non hybrid 5kw solis, about €600 less, so up that margin to €5 grand for final electrical install. You can resource a 10 panel Install for under 3 grand in materials.

ratracer · 17-10-2023 1:08pm

Three quotes I received in Galway, for an E/W split:

1) 16x Recom Panels (6.7kw), 5.5kw Solis Inverter, 5.3kw Waco battery, Eddi: €13,300 ( €10,800 after grant) BER not included ( €2,500 less without battery)

2) 18 x Jinko panels ( 7.74kw), Huawei inverter, Eddi €11,800 (€9,400 after grant) BER not inckuded

3) 16x Bisol panels (6.4kw), Alpha 5kw inverter, Eddi, 10.1kw Alpha battery.€14,650 ( €12,250 after grant)

Is the battery a good option to have?

Seventy Plus · 17-10-2023 4:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121249146#Comment_121249146

Bad Quote Go elsewhere

niallo27 · 17-10-2023 4:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121250611#Comment_121250611

Thanks,

What kind of price you think i should be paying for 12 panels, not much difference in last few quotes, have things just got crazy lately. Anyone around Clare, Galway, limerick recommend someone decent.

tonysopprano · 17-10-2023 5:40pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121250622#Comment_121250622

Use this link and input your quotes and press advise. Then read the notes in the box to get you onto the right track

http://davidhunt.ie/solar/

niallo27 · 18-10-2023 2:49pm

What do you make of the quote below seems to be a lot more competitive anyway.

Modules- 430w Jinko panels with 25-year product warranty and 30-year linear power warranty.

10 x 430w Jinko panels Monocrystalline = 4.3kwp system

Inverter –Solis 5kw hybrid

1x 5kw Solis inverter with wifi dongle

Mounting Kit- Renosol ground mount

As Required

Check Meter-

1x check meter

Scaffolding

As required

All required Electrical Work

1x DC ISOLATOR

1x AC ISOLATOR

1x Fireman switch

Batteries- Dyness

1 x 5.1kwh Dyness battery

Solar Switch- for heating hot water through the solar panels with surplus power

N/A (Have solar tubes already)

All required Paperwork for commissioning the system

Included

Customer to get own BER post Install

Solar PV Grand Total (Zero rate VAT) €9,824.00

Deposit - €2,000.00

SEAI grant allowance- €2,400.00

(Customer to apply initially)

Balance- €5,424.00

PressTheButton · 18-10-2023 3:23pm

16 x Jinko Tiger Neo N-type 430W panels (6.88kW over two aspects), 5kW Solis hybrid inverter + wi-fi dongle, mounting, scaffolding as required, all required electrical work incl. isolators and fireman’s switch @ €9,180.

… €6,780 after SEAI €2,400 grant.

No battery for now. No EDDI. BER not included.

In addition to the above: Zappi EV home charger @ €1,400 incl.VAT. Qualifies for separate €600 grant.

Seventy Plus · 18-10-2023 3:36pm

This whole business is a Rip Off operation spurred on by the Grant (We would be better off without the grants).

I am looking for 11 Panels and a Hybrid Inverter (just in case I go for a battery down the road); I do not think that people should go for a Diverter as you can always switch the immersion on and off; alternative types of battery should be cheaper in the long run.

At the moment I have 27 quotes ranging from 6,500 to 10,200; I ignore the Grant because this is what you will be handing over to the Installers.

An average quote is around 8,500; and I am now looking closely at those between 6,500 and 7,500 (in due course I will detail here).

The Ideal Homes Show which is Free is on in the RDS Dublin this weekend and 18 Solar PV Installers are included amongst the Exhibitors.

I intend to put these people through their paces and I recommend others to do so as well.

tonysopprano · 18-10-2023 8:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121254982#Comment_121254982

The value of the grant for this size array would be 2400. Using the rule of thumb of €1000 per kW of panels, €420 per kWh of battery, that should be about €6442 for that system (after grant). But it's only a rule of thumb. Just don't go above €1300 per kW of panels and €550 per kWh battery (ex VAT), which would give you €8395 after grant. Your quote of €7424 is at the upper end of the recommended range. Get a few more quotes..

tonysopprano · 18-10-2023 8:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121255155#Comment_121255155

The value of the grant for this size array would be 2400. Using the rule of thumb of €1000 per kW of panels, €420 per kWh of battery, that should be about €6880 for that system (after grant). That's a fantastic quote, go for it!

sligopaul · 19-10-2023 7:54am

how long before providers all start dropping the rate on feed in, Flogas have signalled a drop from 22(ex vat) to 18.5 in November and others will start to follow suit as the market matures and there is more capacity from solar. While a battery may be marginal for most people at the moment. having a hybrid inverter is a must

Lombardo123 · 19-10-2023 9:41am

Have been given 2 more quotes: (We are an under average use household currently (~3500kWh a year)

Quote 1:

5.64kW system
12 x 470w Jinko Solar Tiger Neo panels
1 Hybrid Inverter 4Kw (Sofar solar)
1 Battery 5kW (Sofarsolar)
4 optimisers.
They are offering immersion switch timer instead of EDDI (for "free")
Covering the BER

Cost without battery: 13,300 - 2,400 = 10,900 cost to me (expensive battery!)

Cost with battery: 10,350 - 2,400 = 7,950 cost to me.

Quote 2:

4.3kW system
10 x 430w Jinko Black Solar panels
1 Hybrid Inverter & battery 5kW (livoltek)
- Never been offered all-in-one before.
Covering the BER and NC6 application

Cost: 9,847 - 2,400 = 7,447 cost to me

Provided a nice fancy spreadsheet where they estimated i could save 1900kWh a year

DrPsychia · 19-10-2023 2:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121247163#Comment_121247163

Same crowd quoted me for the following system.

Based in Dublin.

Company 1:

10 x Denim Glass to Glass Bi Facial or similar, Mono Crystalline 430Wp (505Wp with Rear Side) PV Module (with 35-year warranty output & 35-year warranty product) – EU Made

1 x SolarEdge Inverter (with 12 years warranty)

10 x SolarEdge S440 Power Optimiser (with Arc protection & 25 years warranty) 1 x SolarEdge Import / Export meter

1 x Eddi/SolarEdge Hot Water Diverter (with 3 years Labour and Parts Warranty) 1 x 4 Pole Fireman Switch

1 x Electrical Materials, Fuses, etc...

1 x Full Install and Grid Commission

1 x Wi-Fi Kit and Free Monitoring Portal for Life

1 x SEAI Grant Paperwork Management Including BER Assessment for the Grant.

5 Years Labour Warranty + 5 Years Comprehensive Parts Service Warranty

No battery

Total(ex grant ex VAT) €11,300

Total(Inc Grant & VAT) €8,400

OPTIONAL:

10kW SolarEdge Battery €8500 with full supply and install including Wall / Floor Mount, SolarEdge Hub Inverter and Accessories

Company 2:

3.2Kwp 8 panel roof mounted system including all black panels, inverter and wi-fi monitoring.

5Kw Pure Drive Battery

Total( ex Grant): €13,549.87

Total(inc Grant) €11,389.87

Company 3:

10 x 430w Jinko (25 year warrant inc parts & labour)

1 x Hybrid inverter (Solis)(10 year warrant inc parts & labour)

1 x Eddi

App monitoring - Yes

No battery included

optional: 7.5kWh battery €7300

Total (Ex grant) €8,163

Total(Inc Grant) €5753

sligopaul · 20-10-2023 8:09am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121259198#Comment_121259198

That second quote , Wow !

DrPsychia · 20-10-2023 8:32am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121261590#Comment_121261590

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Mod note: no naming companies.

niallo27 · 20-10-2023 9:45am

Latest quote i got, strange battery is adding so much to it

The ECO PREMIUM PACK will include the following:

• 10 x 400w panels

• Hybrid inverter

• 5kwh battery storage

• Roof mounting equipment

• All labour works

• All electrical testing and commissioning

• Online monitoring to see each day exactly what your system is producing

• BER

RRP

€ 11,700.00 Cost. 0% VAT Offer

€ 2,400.00 SEAI Grant

€ 9,300.00 Final Cost to Customer.

🎃Halloween Discount €1000 - reducing your final price to €8,300👻

The ECO PLUS PACK will include the following:

• 10 x 400w panels

• Hybrid inverter

• Roof mounting equipment

• All labour works

• All electrical testing and commissioning

• Online monitoring to see each day exactly what your system is producing

• BER

RRP

€ 7,700.00 Cost. 0% VAT Offer

€ 2,400.00 SEAI Grant

€ 5,300.00 Final Cost.

🎃Halloween Discount €500 - reducing your final price to €4,800 👻

I have listed all the makes of the equipment we use bellow:

Hybrid Inverter: Solis

Battery 5kw: Pure Drive

Panels: Leapton, plain black, monocrystalline silicon cells

Lombardo123 · 20-10-2023 2:55pm

Quote 2:

4.3kW system
10 x 430w Jinko Black Solar panels
- 1 Hybrid Inverter & battery 5kW (livoltek)Never been offered all-in-one before.
Covering the BER and NC6 application

Cost: 9,847 - 2,400 = 7,447 cost to me

Provided a nice fancy spreadsheet where they estimated i could save 1900kWh a year

Update: This crowd followed up today and sensed i was a little cagey with the quote - offered me 10% off it.

Updated cost: Cost: 8886 - 2,400 = 6,486 cost to me

con747 · 20-10-2023 2:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121263278#Comment_121263278

Enter the quote here http://davidhunt.ie/solar/

Lombardo123 · 20-10-2023 3:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121263298#Comment_121263298

Looks like it could be party time!

tonysopprano · 20-10-2023 4:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121263278#Comment_121263278

The value of the grant for this size array would be 2400. Using the rule of thumb of €1000 per kW of panels, €420 per kWh of battery, that should be about €6526 for that system (after grant). That's a fantastic quote, go for it!

davidhunt.ie/solar

con747 · 20-10-2023 5:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121263278#Comment_121263278

You can enter the panel details and orientation here https://re.jrc.ec.europa.eu/pvg_tools/en/tools.html to get an idea of how much generation to expect. If you have more than 1 orientation do them separately. Another handy one to look at is https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.gr.java_conf.siranet.sunshine

Seventy Plus · 20-10-2023 10:09pm

The Quote that I am looking for is for 11 Panels and a Hybrid Inverter.

All prices in Euro and BEFORE grant

At Self Build in Belfast I got:

6,500 JAM 425, 5K Givenergy hybrid inverter Gen 3 and including BER

7,000 Jinko 435w and 5K Solis hybrid inverter

Today at Ideal Homes in Dublin I got quotes up to 13,500

6,300 Jinko 435w or Bauer, Solis or Sofar hybrid inverter and including BER

6,500 Trina 415w, Solis hybrid inverter, and including BER

Domestic Solar PV Quotes 2022 - No PM requests - See Mod note post #1

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