Has Paddy Cosgrave overstepped the mark?

Cosgrave will be in the business books and spoken about on the MBA courses of elite universities worldwide. Not for the reasons he had imagined in his own head though.

Anyone surfing around X on the morning of the Hamas attacks would have seen the pieces of film shot by the go-pros of the attackers.

To comment other than to express disgust and horror at the pictures reveals a lack of humanity that is frightening.

Paddy was always going to be hoist on his own petard, he just didn’t think it would be this one.

Indeed, but this also illustrates the power of the pro-Israel lobby among governments and in big corporations. As a state, the Israeli regime is probably hated by the general population in many countries, even across Europe and the US, but they have massive influence much further up the chain.

I'd like to point to sections;

2.a.iv

2.b.i, ii, iii, iv, v, ix, xx,

And so on. Are Hamas in breach? 100% but that doesn't somehow absolve the Israeli behaviour.

As much as a twat Cosgrave is, he wasn't wrong.

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Cosgrave is exactly the type of person who would give one of his employees a hard time if he or she expressed pro-Israeli views or anything else that did not agree with his current rant. So he should have thought about what his counterparts in big organisations would do.

Yeah. . . sure you're keeping an open mind.

It's a war, innocent civilians get killed. As long as the civilians weren't the target and the number of civilian casualties weren't disproportional, there is no war crime. The latter is a flexible term, if combatants operate from the midst of civilians, even using hostages and / or human shields, there doesn't seem to be any restriction

@circadian - exactly. Excessive is the key word here. From jurisprudence this is very flexible when combatants operate from within civilian areas / use human shields, which is likely the case here.

An example of when a bombing clearly is a war crime is dropping the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki when the aim was to kill civilians

Has there been any evidence that the Israeli targets actually took out tunnels, weapons caches or high value targets? I've seen a handful of high value targets killed but beyond that, nothing. Claiming that they're human shields deprives them of their victimhood, it just equates them as collateral, another number and it's ok because the multiple civilian deaths were justified because there was the potential to slightly weaken Hamas.

In fact, there is documented evidence of IDF soldiers using Palestinians as human shields in the past.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2010/11/26/israel-soldiers-punishment-using-boy-human-shield-inadequate

They also have prior form, https://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/military-destroyed-hospital/

Not to mention countless denials, cover ups and subsequent admission of killing journalists, UN peacekeepers etc all in contravention of the Geneva Convention.

Paddy has resigned as CEO according to the Indo

His resignation means nothing. He, for example, still hold onto his shares, attend ALL company meetings, have a big influence , more than likely on who his replacement will be, have a continuous ‘quiet word’ in his replacement’ and other influencers’ ears , etc, etc, etc, etc. look how he operates re DITCH. He might have a bit more time to spend on the operations of Ditch. So watch out Google Siemens, Meta, etc, etc.

Because they're all FF or FGers or cronies thereof. He also points out blatant corruption which is never investigated by mainstream media. It ain't complicated.

There's a difference between government and main opposition when it comes to these types of opinions. The opposition can be ignored generally.

You see some big swings from other countries being reported in the news (generally in the news media that'd agree with them) but when you look at it it's just a member of the opposition, generally the blow black for the country is minimal or non existent.

Spain's had their elections a few months ago but while the opposition were ahead in seat but they'd not the number to make a government and now the former and current caretaker government is trying to appeal to a bunch of tiny far left independence parties. So we're getting very strong comments from them about Palestine. So I can see them getting a lot of blow back if it continues when the government is formed.

@circadian - "Has there been any evidence that the Israeli targets actually took out tunnels, weapons caches or high value targets?"

Evidence of results isn't required, evidence of intention does matter. Obviously if there is evidence of results or even just evidence of legitimate targets being there, that would help the case of actor who did the bombing

But to answer your question directly, didn't Hamas acknowledge a few times when some of their leaders were killed? Although I hasten to add that I find "evidence" or statements from both sides highly questionable without independent verification

A big blow for Sinn Fein with Paddy having to resign.

It's not an apology either that he published, it was damage control by his PR team.

Not just the established American view, but more specifically the pro-Israel lobby in western politics and in huge corporations.....it looks like they are massively influential.

The onion guys called it a week ago. Cosgrave must have missed it.

The IRA did it.

I think the Irish govt. + positions of Ireland on Israel and Palestine etc. are long known, and no shock to the US or US companies (I expect). Paddy Cosgrave is not a politician or a leader.

Maybe broadcasting your takes on very controversial stuff during times of war and conflict that will polarise your customers/business relations is a bad idea when you are in event management/pr etc...

I thought people used to be advised to stay clear of discussion of stuff like religion and politcs in polite company? (half joking).

I think it's more many simply don't understand our position, and I've met plenty in the US and other countries who still don't understand that we're not part of the UK.