Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Are you just picking now or what, my original point forgotten now to talk about your personal opinion? Your opinion is based on something, facts or unconfirmed information. When it's based on unconfirmed information it's speculation. I'm not taking away from your opinion or your right to an opinion, my point is nobody can provide an answer to the questions the poster I was originally responding to asked. It's only ever going to be speculation if proven facts aren't involved, speculation can still be an opinion and vice versa.

"Hamas are correct to militarily engage the Zionist regime in Palestine. There is only Palestine, and Palestinians are brothers of the 32-County Irish and Basques."

Just one example from earlier in the thread when the atrocities by hamas were being committed.

Just my opinion, but a reason for the delay in ground invasion of Gaza may be to prepare further air, anti missile defences in case of Hezbollah reaction to invasion. It may take time to rebuild ammunition stocks for Iron Dome. The US navy preparations for a response to Hezbollah attack may also take time.

Just an opinion.

I think BigWill’s point was a bit deeper than that. Do you think it was appropriate to wave flags etc in front of the Israeli embassy immediately after the Hamas slaughter?

Hamas, unfortunately, poses a significant problem for the Palestinians. The unfortunate reality is that this militant group has brought about numerous challenges and hardships for the people it claims to represent. Some people, even within that community, have the ability to distinguish between killing civilians and targeting Hamas. The claim that Israel is solely targeting Hamas seems questionable when considering the scale of civilian deaths so far. It is difficult to fathom how so many innocent lives could be lost if the bombings were indeed precise.

In today's world, we often hear powerful rhetoric from Western leaders about peace and harmony. They speak of building bridges, fostering understanding, and creating a better future for all. However, amidst all these promising words, a harsh reality persists: the destruction of entire city blocks is becoming an all-too-common occurrence on the news.

Muslim countries will have to lay the foundation for a more tolerant society.  Either way, the practicality of invasion as a long-term protection strategy is questionable. While it may temporarily quell immediate Hamas threats, it does not address the root causes of the conflict. This will likely lead to the creation of more bad actors who will try to kill more Israelis anyway.

As things stand, this is a total disaster that will only get worse from here. The Houthi factions in Yemen are just awaiting an opportunity to strike shipping lanes, causing an economic catastrophe. Iran could shut down the Strait of Hormuz. Besides all these tit-for-tats, you also have to worry about global markets declining if Israel goes in. If Israel invades the area, American warships will be off the coast. Would Iran use hypersonic missiles to strike them? Does Hezbollah have them?

She's also been cheerleading for Russia effectively too...dressing it up as anti-NATO bullsh!t. Her and her boyfriend, the alleged socialist with the vineyard and the ex-employees left with no pensions/

Spot on. Not a shred of sincerity/concern for anyone in this conflict. Most these commentators/protesters simply using the carnage as a vehicle to rant against Israel/Jewish people

Overall, the deployment of tens of thousands of troops into a large urban area, as observed in the context of the Ukraine war, necessitates careful planning. Most reservists lack experience in underground fighting, which presents a significant challenge when it comes to engaging Hamas forces in underground settings. Regardless of the chosen course of action, whether it be to proceed with the invasion or to call it off, there has been no indication from the Israeli government to suggest that they are abandoning their plans. It is possible that they are taking more time to carefully strategize and plan the operation. Hezbollah and other groups will likely join fully once the military invasion commences. Right now, Israel and Hezbollah are engaging in a game of hit-for-hit. It is quite intriguing that Hezbollah's leader, Hassan Nasrallah, has not yet mentioned this conflict. This silence from Nasrallah is unusual and might indicate something significant is happening behind the scenes. 

Yes, there's an * for sure. Those * numbers are over an 18 month period. The current Gaza situation has been going on for about two weeks.

I mean, c'mon. You know that. In two weeks, more civilians have been killed than in 9/11. On a humanitarian basis, it's not really defendable.

You can't compare either places ,

Large parts of Ukraine is still under occupation and anywhere liberated they found mass graves and torture chambers and add the 700,000 children who are missing after forcibly being removed from Ukraine and a large number of adults brought to Russia for re-education

So yeah it might take a while to reach those figures,and that's before you add the hundreds of thousands of soldiers killed on each side

Way to paint everyside on the other side of your point view as just terrible people in general. Some people are just against civilians on both sides being killed in this long running conflict. It would be lazy to paint those not against the IDF methods in Gaza as Islamophobic, wouldn't it?

They are certainly successful in picking 'low' value targets ... how many children have been murdered so far