Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Also tend to be very nice people in my experience with them.

They should be encouraged into employment. The war (s) is not going to end anytime soon. The guards , the building sector, the hospitality sector, the transport sector are all experiencing dramatic workforce collapse. These people or a section of them should be trained up and employed and contribute to society.

If they appeal the order, yes, they can stay, otherwise they'd have to appeal from whatever country they are deported to, which would be silly

Heard O Gorman on the radio saying people should not come here if other countries are an option, now you know things are bad when a guy who only a few years ago was promising every Tom Dick and Harry a house 4 months after showing up is now saying don't come here as there is no accommodation available.

He even admitted that those who do still arrive will be in tents, I think we are very near the time when the whole thing is going to crash and burn and it needs to happen to make those in power realise an open border policy is doomed to failure.

It didn't work in the rest of Europe so how did they think Ireland would be different.

what solutions have you got? How do you see a unilateral irish government border shutdown working out????? Do you think we are a powerful independently wealthy country like Saudi Arabia that can shoot illegal migrants on sight or treat them in any which way we like take their passports work them like slaves etc etc ????? What happens if we start turning away migrants????? Just think about it for a few minutes. Just think about how much resources this country has and military power to assert ourselves to be able to tell the global order to go **** itself we are not taking any more refugees!!!!

The absolute **** would be sanctioned out of us . The country would be brought to its knees within days. This country is a weak as a kitten. We are totally dependent on the global economy . We have zero hard power and I absolutely emphasise zero hard power on the world stage to be able to take a decision to close our borders to refugees.

The refugee problem can only be solved at source. Russia and its proxies in Syria and North Africa and Ukraine are driving these refugees to our borders in their millions . Russia needs to be put back in its box and the refugee problem disappears. It started in 2015 when the Russians went in and destroyed Syria and drove millions into Europe. Then lukashenko imported refugees to his country and drove them to the polish border. Then Russia went into Ukraine fucked the place up and drove millions of refugees into Europe. Then the Wagner group went into North Africa and precipitated coups in the Sahel and drove hundreds of thousands ( potentially millions) more into Europe swamping lampedusa and southern Italy. Stop Russia and the refugee crisis disappears. They are absolute knuts of the highest order. And I really emphasis and underline knuts.

C. U. Next Tuesday’s . Parasitic interfering bastards Whatever your having yourself

of the utmost highest order.

They want us to destroy ourselves and tear ourselves apart over the refugee crisis .

This is what hybrid warfare looks like. Like the cyber attack on the HSE.

we are a neutral country but this war has been declared on us whether we like it or not.

They are playing us like a fiddle.

saying we are full not going to work. We are not a powerful country that can isolate ourselves from the rest of the world and take decisions like that. Not even close. We have Zero hard power. Absolute zero. We have nothing that we can hold other countries over a barrel with. You’re living in Disneyland if you think we can. As I said Saudi Arabia can shoot refugees or work them to death on building sites. Because they have oil nobody says a word to them. Any country dependent on the global economy like ourselves has absolutely no choice and must conform to the consensus. If ye can’t accept or even acknowledge this reality on this thread then there is nothing more to be said. Yes we could pretend we are broke and can’t take them in that would work out well for us.

But I do 100% agree with you that much more should be done on screening those that show up at our borders. And 1000% agree that criminal offenders be immediately deported.

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Money drying up ? Or is Ukraine yesterdays news ?

...not really, cause we dont live in a more stricter authoritarian like state, so very little, or even none of that will ever be implemented....

There 800k with some form of disability in Ireland not all are claiming however .

It's not a question of money. They'll just continue to cut back in services and supports for the natives - although the piss poor response from Leo to the Cork flooding last week and the public spat with the head of the HSE over the budget allocations are making that harder to get away with.

It's more likely a combination of no more places they can put them with winter on the way, and a growing sense of frustration and resentment across all voter groups. It's not something they can dismiss as a handful of "far right agitators" anymore.

It's long overdue, but it's closing the door after the horse has long since bolted.

Or maybe they know that the Palestinians will be incoming shortly, so they are trying to make more room and re-jig resources………

You can argue that it’s semantics -asked/instructed - but technically it’s not asking. I wouldn’t disagree that enforcement is an issue. It’s a question of resources as far as I can see. There is more logistically involved in carrying out enforced deportations than you’d think.