Killers of the Flower Moon - Martin Scorsese - AppleTV+

Any subtitles in this from the Osage Langauge to English?

But there are some? Quite a lot? I’d be watching in a country that I don’t understand the native Langauge too well.

I went to see this today and my bladder managed better than Oppenheimer, ha!

I liked the film, wanted to love it. Don’t know how much a few factors affected it such as its length and the cinema experience. It absolutely does not need to be as long as it is. With that length of a film & given the amount of death and loss in the film for Mollie I wanted an emotional punch that never came by the time credits rolled, especially after spending that much time in the story.

The story is compelling, though at times I was trying to play mental catch up with character names when they’d get mentioned throughout.

Which brings me to my Cineworld complaint. If the ads and trailers sound was at volume 10, the film was at 5, and this had my ears stressing to hear conversations. It was screen 13 which has been refurbed, but they don’t even appear to have the surround sound turned on, all volume comes from the front. It’s a farce. A couple at the end of the row behind me low mumble chatted throughout and were on par with the movie volume. I had to shush them three times and they never stopped. It had me so annoyed the longer it went on. I genuinely am considering cancelling my Cineworld card as the only screen they seem to have good sound is the Imax screen. Does anyone else think the same?

When the film is that long, I feel like you need an intermission. I'd go see it in the cinema with one, but without, I can't really manage it without missing some of it

You sound offended..........I loved raging Bull, Silence, mean streets, the wolf of wall street, Casino, Goodfellas. They were great movies, the irishman is not and neither is Killers of the flower moon.

I was a big fan of the book but I was a bit disappointed with this film. I went to see if in the Stella so comfy seats, snacks during the film and no one so much as looked at their phones. I had probably set my expectations too high for the film.

The run time felt a bit long .I think the first third could have been tightened and Ernest's redemption(was flipping really a redemption) arc at the end was a bit hard to swallow. He didn't do it out of the good of his heart or for his family. Lily Gladstone was excellent, De Niro made Hale his own but I think Leo wasn't as good as he had been in other recent projects.

I know it was a directorial choice but I didn't like how the film set everything from Ernest's perspective, I think it would have been better had it included more about the Osage themselves. The only one who seemed to get fleshed out at all was Molly, Anna got a little bit of time but Rita was barely acknowledged.

I didn't hate it and if it comes on TV I'll probably give it a second chance but it was only middling to me.

I really enjoyed The Irishman. Didn't see it in the cinema. But had a day to myself in the comfort of my home. Threw it on and had a couple of beers. Loo breaks whenever I wanted. Couple of ciggie breaks. I don't think I would have enjoyed it as a cinema watch though. It is that bit too long for sitting in the one spot. I'll be doing the same with Killers ....

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this is an actual app? brilliant.

Oh thank God. I'm deeply reassured to see I'm not the only one having this problem. Haven't seen this film yet but I did go to see The Creator recently and couldn't believe how low the volume was. Was tempted to run out and complain to one of the staff but by the time they'd have faffed about trying to sort it I figured the film would have been half over. Plus I've had hearing issues over the last few years so was wondering if it actually was the cinema or my dodgy hearing at fault.

This is a good summation of it I think.

From the word go you can see Marty's skill behind the camera but there was something missing and it felt slightly empty. Almost as if it lacked judgement of what was unfolding and didn't want to take a stance one way or the other.

As above very few Osage had their characters developed and this is a strange decision considering they were the ones we should be sympathetic to. As it was presented a lot of them were just there for the bullet.

Having read the book, I went into this with high expectations but was ultimately let down.

The book is circa 350 pages by a journalist so it is very readable and it flows well. The book also focuses more on the FBI team investigating them and gives more time to the victims. It also gives a wider and more sinister context to the events, basically saying that this was a lot more widespread than just this case, and this is just the case that got discovered.

The fact that the film is so long, and yet leaves out this context is not ideal for me. I'm not a huge DiCaprio film and would have preferred a different actor in his place, or perhaps swap him with Jesse Plemmons and put some more meat on that role. I did think the rest of the cast was very good, in particular DeNiro and Gladstone.

As above, the ending jarred with me as well. I can see what the intention was - but that doesn't mean it was effective. Perhaps doing what the book did, and giving the wider context would have been a better way to go.

I found myself thinking about There will be Blood, and how someone like Paul Thomas Anderson would have tackled a story like this. As much as I love Scorcesse, I don't think this type of story suits him.

Best movie in years.

Been waiting for this to come to Apple but guess that won’t be till March/April. Is this movie anything like ‘there will be blood’?? That’s one my fav films and at around 2hrs 40mins it flew by for me. The Irishman on the other hand I found to be a bit of a drag.

Rubbish film. Turned it off after about 20 minutes.

I think people are afraid to say anything negative about Scorcese. Especially movie critics.

De niro has been in rubbish films for a while now, this movie is a turning point for him, it's streets ahead of there will be blood!

I really enjoyed it. I thought De Niro gave one of the best performances of his latter acting career, Di Caprio and Gladstone were both great. I'm not a die hard Scorcese fan, but this I enjoyed. I felt that some of the other films this year, started well then lost me a bit and I was bored. With KOTFM, after an initially slow start, I was intrigued, and it really held my attention. Incidentally, I (luckily) hadn't read any reviews, so genuinely was clueless before watching it.

I do hope it is recognised come award season.