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Anxiety and depression thread (Please read OP)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


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  • No, a lot of my healthcare is all over the place, some here, some there, and whilst my GP is pleasant you have to put the skates under him for everything. Pushing for things to be done hasn’t been straightforward and has added to the stress. Eg, he was unable to make an online referral to the public MS clinic, didn’t seem to have the set-up on his computer to do so or else the know-how to use it. I ended up asking him to print it out and sent it through registered post. These times patients have to do an awful lot of own record keeping and passing medical letters to other consultants. I’m getting to read these letters before talking to the consultants, and whilst I’m fascinated by science & physiology, it can by a bit full-on reading one’s own medical reports without any expert to discuss it with. I was specifically instructed to get the heart report from the private hospital, print out a copy to give to the anaesthetist in the public hospital to reassure him/her my heart is in fit shape. All I see is a list of things wrong with it and nobody to help me interpret it. Google is my resource and everything kind of looks doomsday. It’s great for patients to have a handle on their own records, but without the perspective of an experienced medical professional to discuss the implications I’m in limbo. I don’t know if that will cancel or delay the procedure to rule out potential cancer, so my head is literally in a spin of added anxiety.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭Sunrise_Sunset


    I'm sorry to hear you are going through this. The main anxiety I have is health anxiety and I've needed lots of tests and scans this year too, which has sent me spiralling out of control. Very difficult to deal with. Do you have any other support?

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  • I live alone, no siblings. However I make sure to keep broader family & contacts well informed of updates in circulars and I do get offers of help from people who are in a position to do, and people send me email & WhatsApp chats, I attend MS Ireland events etc. By nature I’m generally hugely independent, and many I know are going through their own immense struggles, eg cancer, coping with dying relative, all sorts of things as bad and much worse than I’m facing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Completely overwhelmed today. Have psychologist appointment this evening and carer support meeting before that. And trying to get work work done before all of that. And that's a **** show. Just completely burned out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    I'm in the middle of changing over antidepressants and it's been so so tough I'm 26 been depressed since 14 ,it's so difficult at the moment but what I will say is last weeks warm spell helped alot but now back to the awful Atlantic conveyor belt of low and low ugh ,hope everyone else is alright



  • Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭Robert Nairac


    Lads, what the hell do you do when the medication doesn't work? Trying a 4th type of antidepressant and haven't had any luck so far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Yes, the weather is very depressing. I've a ton of problems to deal with, but it's much easier when the sun is out. Now, I just feel awful. Stay away from coffee, alcohol and try to get lots of rest, and regular exercise..



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    It can take a frustrating amount of time to find the right med and dosage, all I can say is be patient.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭Sunrise_Sunset


    I'm on my 3rd week of meds and I can feel the difference already, thankfully. I hope it lasts.

    Has anyone's GP put them on the HSE Silvercloud programme? I'm doing it now and am finding it helpful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    Oh I love tea 🍵 have to have a few cups a day but other than that yes I'm keeping busy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭nothing


    Keep trying. Sometimes it's a dose change needed, sometimes it's a combo of different meds, it's a case of trial and error unfortunately. You will find something.

    I have "treatment resistant depression" which is what they term it after trying a bunch of different meds. It's a pain. Current meds are keeping me fairly stable, I'm usually happy if I can get 6 to 9 months from any given dose/combo, think this one is over a year. I'm about 17 years on from my first antidepressants. Hmmm, this is meant to be comforting but it's not reading like that



  • Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭Robert Nairac


    Thanks to both of you for the responses.

    I had to try to convince the doctor to let me try another antidepressant. I have taken Mirtazapine, Venlafexine and Sertraline already. Hoping for some good luck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭nothing


    Is it your gp or have you been referred to the local mental health team?



  • Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭Robert Nairac




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭nothing


    Might be worth asking for a referral, the mental health team will be better equipped and used to meds adjustments, though you might have to stick with the gp if there's a waiting list.

    I usually get the mental health team to deal with all things med related unless it's difficult to get a sooner appointment than whatever is scheduled, in which case I'll see my gp in the mean time and they're very supportive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Overwhelmed. Can't get anything done or move forward.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭One More Toy




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    The very same, if I'm not numb I'm angry and upset



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,376 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Had to take a few mental health days. My stomach was doing a number on me too, which didn't help. Seems lot of us are in the same boat. Probably isn't helping the budget is on the way too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,376 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Did anyone else just stay in bed for Friday 13th?

    A combo of slowly recovering from a stomach bug, and the last time a Friday 13th rolled around, a family member had a hospital stay (for something that turned out to be superfluous- a wrong diagnosis but days in hospital).

    Didn't realise the latter part until today, when someone reminded me. Funny how the body 'remembers' when the brain doesn't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Got more bad news during the week about a very close loved one. It's just an endless mental health and seriously life threatening and limiting struggle they are going through. There seems to be no end in sight. It just sucks the joy out of everything and is a huge worry. On top of everything else. I'm just sitting here and just feel helpless and hopeless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    As before + this weather + season + work crushing me.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Sitting in a numb void mostly myself, it's awful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,376 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Been under the weather with gastro for the last two weeks (started off as just a bad upset stomach that went on for a week or so, then Sunday night/ Monday morning I started vomiting. Only had one major bout of that, didn't have a repeat of it, thankfully).

    Energy levels are sapped. Spent one or two days in bed because I was just exhausted. Haven't had a bug like this in years, probably a decade or more. Only really feeling a little like myself tonight. My eyesight was affected by this for the last few days-found it hard to read or even type, and if I dropped something, there wasn't a hope I could find it. Apparently, temporary blurred vision was due to dehydration, and not being able to absorb vitamins from my food. I did go to the doctor (I knew I had to when my tongue turned white), but wasn't much help they could prescribe. Just what to avoid, and over the counter stuff to help prevent dehydration and vomiting. And a sick note to explain any absences. Seems it's a nasty bug going around.

    I don't like being sick, especially this sick. I tend to feel unproductive, because that's what happens. I can't do anything. I have to ask for help. That it can turn me into a serious hypochondriac.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Incredible feeling of dread and exhaustion. Not good. Need to go to bed early tonight. And hopefully get a good sleep.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭Manc-Red_


    I’m 6 months into a double skull fracture from a crash that ultimately wounded my frontal lobe from the blood across my brain.

    I was lucky enough that the medicine they used in Beaumount stopped me from having any more seizures and I’ve slowly recovered to what I am now.

    Days without work and the overthinking can be tiresome because I know that it’s most likely bs and my worst fears is all made up in my head. I’ll know from the brilliant doctors next month in Peamount if I can work again but recently I’ve passed my drivers test again in the IWA to get out again.

    Things are looking up but the monotony of daily life now can get on my wick and my missus listening to the same c*ap from me must be over-bearing.

    Sorry just needed to vent & keep going.

    Better Born Lucky Than Rich.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,376 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Its better out than in, so to speak. There's no need to apologize for venting. If its held in, it consumes us, when it's let out, it eases it significantly.

    You've been through a great ordeal, and I'm glad that you're making a recovery. I'd imagine your wife looks on the positive side of things- she'd rather be listening to you vent, then the horrible situation of not hearing your voice again.

    From the sounds of things, you're making great progress. I know the monotony of the day to day can get tiresome. But if you do anything from journaling, to word puzzles, it can help a lot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭Manc-Red_


    Yeah I am making progress and even the driving again had come 7 months early with the licence from the IWA.

    Ive been told my speech and communication is very good and new techniques in dealing how to remember stuff that’s new to me has been brilliant.

    In the beginning when I got tested after the accident I couldn’t name what a kangaroo was. I was able to talk but when I look back on it now - I was honestly grey and colourless throughout. Now I’ve got my colour back and I truly know how lucky I am.

    Work could happen again next month and to even have a chance of that is against the odds.

    One thing I always believed is that I can do this and I will. You got to believe and be a tad lucky that it’s not worse initially.

    Better Born Lucky Than Rich.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Thanks for sharing that. Great to see you are recovering.

    I know that when I am very anxious and stressed my thoughts and actions just repeat on and into the bad negative stuff as I withdraw into myself. And I am unbearable. But I definitely recognise that state now. My current and next steps are to get out of that hole as soon as it happens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭Manc-Red_


    Ya know what’s working very well for me ?

    CPD

    Better Born Lucky Than Rich.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭Manc-Red_


    The only real truth about overthinking and it becoming a negative is that we’re the one who does it to ourselves and it can’t be real.

    Never the less it’s not a nice experience but I swear to ya the likes of walking and doing my steps for the day and getting 10K in boosts me.

    With people I’ve found is that they struggle to relate to this and keep asking abrupt questions that tbh I’ve reacted to aggressively initially after the accident but now I’ve just learn to say - what can ya do. It’s their problem.

    Everything you think affects you and your gut feeling. Try think differently and things will change for you.

    Don’t get me wrong I’ve had very bad days but ya know what? It’s a new challenge for me to feel ok and not feel like sh*te constantly. I shall win.

    You will too.

    Better Born Lucky Than Rich.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Continued bad news last night. I can't think, nevermind work.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia




  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Bargain_Hound


    It's been 3 years. It's back after a personal situation triggered me two weeks ago. 2 weeks of total numb, inability to move and function normally. If I didn't have two children (+ a 3rd on the way), I doubt I would be even out of bed typing this. It's them I feel more sorry for to be honest as they go about their day with no knowledge of my thoughts or how I am feeling.

    I just can't shake the feeling in my stomach and my racing thoughts just will not stop.

    That hardest part is being afraid to tell anybody, though my partner is starting to pick up clues. This fear comes from a similar manic situation I went through 3 years ago that turned my life upside down at the time. Took a long time to build myself back to where I am now and at the flick of a switch it's back to haunt me.

    I'm on the fence whether to take a few mental health days from work and trying to decide if this will actually benefit me with less structure in my day.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Get to your GP asap and don't worry about calling helplines either, they'll have all faced similar and helplines are there for exactly this, there's online text or email from some too. Also keep posting here, someone around a lot.

    I'm so sorry you've had a "flare up" as it were, try to remember that you've come through before so the fact is you can again, as fcuking dark as it is now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Bargain_Hound


    Thank you for the kind words and support. I’m trying to figure in my head the best approach to speak to someone.

    I haven’t eaten for 2 weeks really, which doesn’t help. very little appetite.


    I have come through it after a big fight and a lot of time, I’m scared I don’t have the energy to do it this time.



  • Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭Robert Nairac


    Trying a different medication. No benefit. Treatment resistant depression. What do I do now?



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Very sadly meds can take months to find correct medication and dosage level. Keep on keeping on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭nothing


    Keep going. Have it too, been through a lot of dose and medication changes. Keep trying, something will bring relief.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭waxmelts2000



    same here , I’m on my 5th or 6th full medication change. Hopefully things will get better for you



  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Bargain_Hound


    I had another mentally exhausting day today. I had to take two naps during the day throughout work (while the kids were in school). Not sure if it really helps, as when I amnt in the depths of depression, I never nap.


    does anyone else get fatigued so easily from racing thoughts ?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Oh yes, utterly draining, been working hard in therapy to try get a handle on accepting it to take the power from it, but it's like poxy exercise, have to keep in practice with it.. I don't exercise 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Yes.

    The only thing that works for me is to get outside and walk. Not running. Even for 15 mins. If I don't do this I'm completely unproductive the entire day and I just beat myself up more because of it.

    And it's not exercise to get fit/set goals/beat yourself up over. It's your time to clear your head. Take your lunch break/coffee break to just walk. Get away from work, family, kids, everything.

    So, it's ok to be "unproductive", get out for a walk, by yourself, maybe even a tea/coffee, and then go back to work. But not coffee, if it's going to affect your night sleep.

    I nearly went crazy with all the damp and rain recently. Just being stuck inside and when I did go out, it was dark, wet and depressing. So, definitely get out when it's dry and bright.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Very true, rest is worthy of your time, some people seem to have no concept of how necessary that recharge time is



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Have a psychologist appointment tonight. Have a load of stuff I've told him before, to tell him again. It's good for working through things, but not for solving anything.

    And I feel wrecked and unable to even think or plan anything. I only get up to go to work and that's it. The rest of the stuff is just problems and more problems. So, it's work or problems. If I'm lucky I can focus on work and not the problems. Can't ever switch off. Just more crap piling up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Feel a lot better after talking to the psychologist last night. It's like a weight off my shoulders. Didn't fix anything, but it feels like my mind got to exhale and let stuff go, and relax, if even for a short while. It also helps that it's been dry here and sunny for the past few days. And I spent a few hours last night catching up on work stuff, which made things much easier today.



  • Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭Harry321


    Anyone recommend a good on line therapist for anxiety , self confidence ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    I think, if you can, to see someone in person for this. Online for me, is at least is too distant and cold. But it's a good start. You may be able to avail of online, in person, through work at some kind of health insurance discount. I got some sessions in person re anxiety via work health insurance and they were able to recommend someone.



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