"Green" policies are destroying this country

Don't worry. The government will commission a report on what to do, might be completed by the time this government has run its term and the minister responsible has qualified for his full pension. Let it up to the next crowd to do something.

For people interested beyond the press release hype here is the report: The emergence of a climate change signal in long-term Irish meteorological observations.

It goes like this: they have settled the parameters in their heads in a narrow band. That is the safe zone. Their opinions are derived from keeping within those parameters/ borders and are closely guarded. Anything outside is ( rightly so) considered unsafe including doubts about facts/science as that is the danger zone and they naturally want to avoid that. Makes sense.

Ok, but the devil's advocate says to you after you pointing this out: ah, but you are doing the same coming from the opposite side! So, alright, let's accept the accusation for a moment. The real difference is that i at least allow a conversation with broader boundaries (which is what a public conversation SHOULD LOOK like) while your side wants to avoid it and is willing to use any weapon to prevent a meaningful discussion, uses media and education manipulation and politics to bias the outcome. They might to a degree not even realise they are doing it as they wrap themselves in their moral highground 'im a good person' selfrighteous dogoodery. That is allowed...if you are below the age of 21. A grownup should know better or at least we should expect them to. That's the feeling i get when i watch the Green Party conference and their leaders. Or the likes of George Lee..

So you believe that Irish emissions cuts can ameliorate global climate change. But you don't have any science to back that up.

Yes, George Lee at it again. That man is irritatingly stupid and ignorant. No matter where you put him he becomes the worst type of biased agent.Now he is a 'climate correspondent'. It is worth a comedy show. Remember the Covid days? Was there anybody more pathetic? That patronising tone alone, telling the Irish people what to think. He is what they call a useful idiot. The climate alarm mascotte of the state broadcaster.

You always have to look where a report comes from. If it has 'climate' in the title you should be suspicious. If it is more conventional institution like say NASA or the Met Office you have to look for the red flags to indicate a political position instead of a scientific one. More and more climate alarmists are put into powerful positions in state bodies, like the KNMI in Holland and the Met Office in the UK. Whenever they feel the need to put a 'report' forward you can be certain that it is political in nature. They should be concerned with the weather. If they want to spread alarmism in a private capacity that's ok but grand statements are out of order..

Had he anything to say in 2009 when the country was being flooded?

Global warming was already biasing Irish weather towards extreme events by 2009. We are decades into significant climate change in Ireland with an overall higher rainfall rate leading to more frequent flooding.

That may well be but the difficult sell for many is that Irelands emissions have cause this change and an even more difficult sell is that investing in bicycles for all will in any way ameliorate it into the future

Climate is measured in 30year trends. You look at the trend over a minimum of thirty years and ask has the frequency and intensity of extreme weather events changed.

The best people to tell you this are the Insurance industry because they keep very close track on this as it determines risk. They have stated on a global level that extreme weather events have increased in both intensity and frequency.

I dare say that at this stage large parts of Cork city are uninsurable, the shape of things to come I suspect.

Then we have the socialist nightmare of the government been the insurer of last resort - the recent flood victim supports are just a taste of things to come.

I was in clonmel recently and saw the height of the flood defenses in the city. Scary.

Farming acording to primetime (the mouthpiece for the government) is the reason for the flooding for the last week,no mention of building on flood plains,no mention of the blocked gully's full of leaves or the matress blocking the culvert .This ff/fg/green shower of fools will get some kick in the hole in the elections coming ,I used have time for m.martin but now realise he was the biggest joke ever of a leader of this country

Is this the first council asking for rivers to be cleaned?