Almost 50% of drivers believe accompanied driver rule should be scrapped

Halloween bangers. Boom 💥

You are supposed to remove the L Plates when the learner is not driving, yes I know nobody bothers, but that is what is supposed to happen.

so basically you've got nothing and are just noise. I get it.

To be honest, I can’t see these drivers being much of a problem to society. They are all experienced drivers, as you say, some have up to 30 years driving experience. Its not like they are failing their driving test every time, I believe they just cancel the booking or don’t show up.

Or don't even own a car, have no intention of driving one in the near future, but have retained the learners permit, "just in case" and to avoid redoing the EDT lessons?

As mentioned by a previous poster, I don't understand the logic of a learner driver somehow being safer on the road with a licensed driver sitting beside them. I do take the point that a licensed driver can advise a driver to slow down or pay attention but the only possible thing they could do to stop a collision for argument sake would be to pull up the handbrake maybe. They cant wrestle the steering wheel off the driver or grab the keys.

Also what happens if the licensed driver has even worse habits than the learner?

' Should I indicate here? '

'Pfft indicators , Good one'

The dual control car or preferably driving taught as a subject in school in an enclosed area until proficiency is earned would be the better option.

And for context , I'm of a vintage that failed his first test, but was able to get a second learners permit and legally drive on my own on the learners permit for 2 years I think in which case I had to take another test. I think if you got a third learner you couldn't drive on your own. Driving test wait times were 15 months. Either way drove the length and breath of the country with no L plates up. Did a fair bit of motorway driving so it wasn't worth the hassle. Kept under the radar when driving and was never queried on it by a guard.

I passed by the way.

Next thing some people will be looking for prospective parents to take a sim test each time prior ro doing the dance for real😂😂

But if they are booking tests and not using them it is increasing the backlog, causing complaints about delays and leading to threads like this.

You say that you can't see them being much of a problem, but they may have never sat a test, so you have no way of knowing if they are good bad or indifferent and if they can not manage to pass a test in 30 years they should not be entertained a renewal of a learners permit.

Who are the arrogant pr1cks again? Not sure if you're referring to those young lads who are well capable of passing the test or those who have proven in the past that they can pass the test and drive competently or... sorry Ive lost my train of thought

I wonder how many of us would fail the test if we sat it again.

Loads id imagine on technicalities and a plethora of minors.

I certainly had to surpress some when I did my BE (10 years after B).

I once had the opportunity to take part in a (shortened) mock theory test on a car show, several years after I got my driver's license. Only myself and maybe one other passed, of a "class" that consisted of about 20 people. Not all 20 people had a driver's license (there were children there too) but still.

I think it wouldn't hurt to have a mandatory refresher upon driver's license renewal. Also because rules change over the years.

Whichever profession people have, they keep up-to-date with developments over the years in their field. But the certificate that is their driver's license gets neglected.

Have we data on accidents and road deaths before and after this law was brought in

full licence or not involved?

Where are all the learner drivers out there smashing everyone to smithereens?

It's not that hard to drive, the initial steps should be done in a controlled environment, not on the open road, once some modicum of control is shown off with ya, similar to the ibt