National Broadband Ireland : implementation and progress

L1011 · 26-10-2023 4:29pm

Got a "we are surveying in your area" mail, when the area is still down as Jul-Dec 2025. That's a downward revision from Jan 2025 - Dec 2026, but the date in mid 2022 was Nov 2022 - Jan 2023.

We've been told locally its microwave backhaul rather than undersea, but still FTTP, when I was very concerned they were going to try pull some stroke with fixed wireless; but can I read anything in to that email other than possibly being an error?

The Continental Op · 26-10-2023 4:48pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121287068#Comment_121287068

Also got that but if you remember back to a previous post of mine it must have been 6 months back when they were out surveying the area?

oscarBravo · 26-10-2023 7:13pm

We've been told locally its microwave backhaul rather than undersea, but still FTTP...

That's how islands are being done at the moment - microwave to a central point on the island, and FTTP from there. Presumably the plan is to upgrade to an undersea fibre if the opportunity arises (if ESB Networks are replacing a cable, for example).

L1011 · 26-10-2023 7:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121287723#Comment_121287723

I was told that the first, closest in Donegal islands were done by rolling a cable reel off the back of the ferry.

Waiting for ESBN makes some sense but those cables have huge life. Tory hasn't even got ESBN cables - it has a large diesel genset.

Our dual redundant cables are 80s (replacements of the 50s ones themselves) as far as I know so a replacement should be soon enough

OSI · 31-10-2023 4:54pm

How far into the house and how much work are the installers willing or allowed to do when installing NBI? I have a services cabinet on the side of the house, but my comms room is in the middle of the house, a few rooms and several meters away. I currently have 2 Cat 6A cables running from that box to the comms room that I'm hoping to use as a wire pull to pull the fibre through, but I don't know if the guys are only allowed to bring the fibre to an external wall or something.

cyfac · 31-10-2023 5:10pm

Hello so NBI have rolled out the fibre in our area and for some reason my house os the only one in the area showing as not being included can anyone explain how I go about forgetting the NBI to update as when I approach a service provider they are saying until it changes they cannot supply me with fibre any help would be greatly appreciated

baz9375 · 31-10-2023 5:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121306370#Comment_121306370

I was in similar position - had cabinet set up in middle of the house and entry point was on gable wall into the attic space.

I had a conduit run in place from entry point in the attic down into the comms cabinet and pull rope in this - total distance was 14 meters from where it enters to where the ONT was mounted at the comms box - explained all to installer and he had no issue with long cable run.

Best advice I got was to do as much work beforehand and make the install as easy as possible for the engineer on the day.

monster1 · 04-11-2023 6:48pm

We had a date for yesterday to have eir 1Gb installed, but installers cancelled and changed to this morning.

All installed, but I can't get eir to activate the broadband..

They only activate during weekdays? Though the engineer that installed it never said that. He just told me to call them in an hour and they will activate it

heavydawson · 06-11-2023 12:13pm

Screenshot 2023-11-06 at 11-12-41 PowerPoint Presentation - NBI_Product_Roadmap_v1.3_18_10_2023-2.pdf.png

Updated roadmap published on NBI service provider site

P2C · 08-11-2023 3:03pm

Our survey was completed last year. I note the NBI website is now saying network build in progress. Do not think the timelines have changed. Saying 2025. I have noticed a few Ciret Vans around and they put in a new pole on my road early today. From chatting to the surveyors there are a good few new ones to go into place and no sign of them. I saw them fishing cables on another road the other day. To be honest I hadn’t time to stop. Maybe it’s just work for Eir. Does anyone know If the network build in progress goes up does that mean they’re in the area working or just the next phase after surveying and goes on auto.

Ronald Binge Redux · 08-11-2023 3:14pm

Eircode issued nearly six months ago but as far as OpenEir is concerned its still 'computer says no'

The Cush · 08-11-2023 9:47pm

Newport Tipperary DA, survey completed a few months ago. In design stage now, NBI are in the area looking at poles, potential cable routes, seeking landowner permissions etc.

Still 2026 rollout here.

heavydawson · 13-11-2023 1:15am

RTE news : National broadband reaches 200,000 premises milestone

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2023/1113/1416128-broadband-ireland/

clohamon · 13-11-2023 1:36pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121360883#Comment_121360883

NBI stats available at the foot of their homepage. Updated every Friday. Passing c.10k/mth over recent months.

heavydawson · 13-11-2023 3:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121362588#Comment_121362588

The take-up numbers are encouraging as well:

Over 60,000 premises are now already connected to the NBI network which is significantly above all previous forecasts which envisaged 50,000 connections by the end of the current contract year in January 2024.

Take-up rates are above 40% in areas where the network has been live for longer than twelve months, and the average take-up rate of 30% is well ahead of projections and international comparisons.

I'm not sure if they were doing it during my DA build-out but it looks like the contractors are working weekends now as well. Alltec had lads hanging DPs on Saturday last in Garryspillane in West Limerick. 3 vans over a 1km stretch of road.

listermint · 13-11-2023 3:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121363016#Comment_121363016

We had the guys trimming the trees for network rollout here over weekend.

Some fun with some neighbours though and their don't touch my tree attitude so that'll be interesting.

newhouse87 · 13-11-2023 5:12pm

So pole across road form my house had fibre running along it, have dp boxes 100m roughly each way. Have been waiting for civils crew to unblock duct for over a year, 5 m from one of the dp boxes up the road, currently have comreg complaint in. Today alltec engineer working for nbi has put a dp box on the pole outside my house. Is that the norm?

heavydawson · 13-11-2023 5:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121363680#Comment_121363680

Were the existing DPs across the road NBI as well? Or Openeir?

newhouse87 · 13-11-2023 5:21pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121363713#Comment_121363713

The existing dps are both approx 100m up and down the road and are there years wit openeir, i should have been connected over a year ago but openeir are pricks to deal with. NBI have installed dp box today on pole right outside my house. Presume thats good news even though it says on website sep-dec24 connection.

newhouse87 · 13-11-2023 5:46pm

Just had a rua tech van pull into my driveway with mini digger to turn, i wonder are they related to what nbi guy was doing or by some mad coincidence they were up the road unblocking duct for other dp pole i could use.

clohamon · 13-11-2023 9:20pm

The Department was before the Public Accounts Committee on the 9th November

Brian Stanley (Laois-Offaly, Sinn Fein)

That is welcome. Mr. Mulligan, what is the uptake of fibre broadband where it has been provided?

Mr. Fergal Mulligan:

On average, it is around 40%, which is ahead of target. There are four or five counties where it is over 50%. That depends on when the deployment area is finished. For any county that is 12 months post-deployment, it is at least 40%, and for a number of counties it is more than 50%.

There's more, but it's mostly Brian Stanley TD rehearsing his critique from 5 years ago and getting mixed up over targets.

heavydawson · 13-11-2023 10:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121363822#Comment_121363822

OpenEir and NBI use the exact same duct/pole infrastructure, so it's possible NBI are actually going to get the duct unblocked before OpenEir

newhouse87 · 14-11-2023 10:39am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121364893#Comment_121364893

hmm, mini digger at pole with last hour, ill go up and ask who they are working for. if its NBI and they have duct unblocked, im going to have to convince openeir its unblocked to send out crew to do install. customer service wit openeir is horrible enough too.

heavydawson · 14-11-2023 10:55am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121365930#Comment_121365930

Are you in the NBI intervention area?

newhouse87 · 14-11-2023 11:06am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121365975#Comment_121365975

yeah i am, neighbors all have fibre from open eir but as im newly built house im also included in nbi but was hoping to get it sooner as fibre running past my house. I can see lads today are laying yellow piping so its the nbi crowd but they may also have unblocked duct. Must ring sky and get them to push openeir, already have com reg complaint in 2 weeks ago but have to activate it today if i need to.

SodiumCooled · 15-11-2023 11:03am

Hi, just wondering if seeing a Defusion Utility services van/workers seemingly looking at poles along the telephone line has any significance in relation to NBI roll out or could it just be general work on the telephone line (we don't have a landline so I don't know if there is a a storm related issue or anything). We are pending survey and not anticipated for connection until 2026 according to NBI website.

The Cush · 15-11-2023 11:09am

https://twitter.com/OireachtasNews/status/1724723947877359703?t=zwLCadFWhIEWnX51pkkdeg&s=19

geecee · 15-11-2023 9:23pm

Apologies if this has been answered previously:

My parents had NBI installed in their house yesterday and they installed the NBI White box (ONT?) and router in the middle of the wall in the master bedroom. Besides the aesthetics, flashing lights meant that it was turned off in the night and won't ever be turned back on again!

From Pics up thread it looks like the fibre terminates in the ONT and there is a Cat 5E cable from the ONT to the router.

Questions:

Can the ONT be moved by a semi techy person or must we call an engineer?
Can i simply disconnect the fibre from the ONT box and pull it back up were it is coming from to the attic, move the ONT to the attic and then run a longer CAT6 cable to the Router in a more convenient location in the house?
If I am doing that do I need to "cap" the fibre or does the connector have some sort of self sealing mechanism?

Thanks in Advance!

listermint · 15-11-2023 9:30pm

If you can get over aesthetics. Just cover the lights with electric tape to stop it flashing.

geecee · 15-11-2023 9:42pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121373099#Comment_121373099

that was my instructions to them 30 mins ago as i am currently out of town

its not just the aesthetics, the router was placed on the floor in the walkway to the ensuite and is a trip hazard for elderly parents

National Broadband Ireland : implementation and progress

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