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Wifi mesh systems

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,327 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    If you have ftth you can dispose of the sky router as long as what you are replacing it with allows you to tag a vlan



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭The Ayatolla


    Yep, you can ditch the Sky modem completely.

    Attach ethernet from ONT to ethernet port on the TP-Link Mesh (or any other Mesh that supports VLAN tagging).

    Chose the PPPoE option and enter

    Username anything@skydsl

    Password  anything

    You would need to also enter

    Vlan id 10

    MTU 1500 

    Priority should be 0.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭MickH503


    This worked great, thanks for the info. (Didn't see the MTU setting)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,281 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    I've been using TP Link Deco XE75 ever since I gave up on Google Wifi last August. Triband, Wifi 6E, 6ghz etc. etc. - cost 450 euros too.

    When it works it is great, but whenever it decides to stop working it is really a hassle. Sometimes this means resetting the whole network and adding each device one by one, or now for example one of the nodes is losing connection to the base and I just can't get it back working solidly (weirdly it had worked fine in this spot since August). Hard resets etc don't make a difference. Looking online, lots of people have similar issues with TP Link.

    I'm going to try to send it back before my 12-month warranty is up.

    Does anyone recommend anything else that would do the same job? 180m2 over 3 floors, have a few Nest cameras & Philips Hue connected, main thing I am looking for is reliability for video calls etc, and ideally just plug it out and plug it in again to fix whenever something does go wrong



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    I'm still on nest wifi and no plans to change... Two robots, 30ish hue lights, 6ish speakers, thermostats, solar and a bunch of other stuff, all working well. It's never dropped out and I can't imagine needing more bandwidth...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,281 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    I might give that a try, I had the original Google WiFi which didn't work well though



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 quasi1


    .1



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 quasi1


    Hi! Would you happen to know if TP Link Deco M9 supports VLAN tagging? Conflicting results from google.

    Many thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭The Ayatolla


    From my experience, all the TP-Link's have VLAN tagging.

    I'd say go for it if you're thinking of buying. I have the M5s and they're a great job.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,042 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    Thanks for these instructions but they actually confused me because I couldn't find a lot of the settings you were referring to. I have TP-Link X55 with the latest Deco app and these are the steps I followed

    From deco app home page go to More(botton right) > Advanced > IPTV/VLAN

    Configure it like this




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭The Ayatolla


    YYeah if you go into a different setting "Operation Mode" and select Wifi Router, it should guide you through the steps then for the PPPOe details.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hope this is the correct place to ask. I have an garden office room and have been using a Deco M5 system since start of the year which has picked up amazing WiFi signal from the house (maybe 20/25m away). The M5 is inside a back window, with great signal inside the house, and my laptop in the office was easily getting 100mbps.

    In the last week or 2 this has completely changed and is picking up 5-10mbps, amd won't work for video calls. I've done the usual turn on/turn off the WiFi and the Deco system, installed Deco updates, and nothing is getting the signal back to what it previously was.

    Any ideas please?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    Are the other M5 units working well? Maybe try this link to see what you can find out: https://youtu.be/5PCeJxuHYu0



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,512 ✭✭✭Wheety


    We have the new Virgin Media WiFi 6 router.

    It's upstairs in the front of the house. Downstairs at the back of the extension the signal is very bad. We do have the front room downstairs and the extension wired with Ethernet from beside the router.

    Is a mesh system the best for us to give whole house connectivity? Obviously using an Ethernet back haul would be preferred if so.

    I have the Firestick at the back of the house running off Ethernet and can use a switch to extend this to tv, PS4, etc. but phones, laptops and smart devices are struggling



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 844 ✭✭✭eirlink


    NBI fiber due in a month or so, and im thinking about a network, for large bungalow with external detached garage.

    looking for advice on the following:

    going to go with wifi 6e. i will be able to run cat 5 ( or cat 6 ) to 2 x access points. My garage is detached and hoping to have a AP close by to it. All APs will be ethernet backhul. will run a ethernet to TV.

    Was thinking that id use a switch to connect all the APs and also a few IP cameras that im getting.

    So what manafacturer would you recommend for:

    Switch?

    APs?

    ethernet cable...Cat 5 or 6?

    Wifi 6 or 6e?

    Is there a 6e mesh system you would recommend for this scenario? or is there a better way to set this up? TIA

    PS

    would like to have all my IOT on its own network, as an option.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,327 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 844 ✭✭✭eirlink


    tks. but could be a bit technical for the likes of me!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,327 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Ah it's not really, great learning experience!



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭NabyLadistheman


    I use a Friztbox and have set-up a mesh network. I've removed the Eir 1GB modem from the equation and after a lot of changes to settings I seem to operating ok. On the 5GHz channel I can get +600 GB download but only about 70-80GB on the 2.4Ghz channel. Anything obvious I am doing wrong here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,519 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    70-80 GB is about the max 2.4GHz wifi will give you in realistic conditions so nothing wrong here as far as I can see.

    2.4 GHz is good for range and will go through walls etc better, 5GHz will give you speed but is affected by walls.

    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,607 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Have Nest wifi, used to have Virgin BB and we (and I can't remember the term sorry) switched the modem to a certain mode and ran purely using the Nest.

    Moved to Eir FTTH.....isn't nearly as speedy as it should be and I think the eir modem and nest wifi are flighting with each other?

    Tried doing the same to the eir router but it doesn't seem to work the same way.

    Any tips?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    Is it worth the price? I'd go for the previous gen as my broadband is 500mb to begin with...

    Does wifi 6 pass through walls easier than 5? I'm having difficulty getting the signal to my shed outside the house.



  • Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭gaillimh


    Hi guys,

    I'm living rurally on the Galway-Mayo border for the past 8 years and have been struggling with extremely bad broadband for all of that time.

    NBI website says my address is currently pending survey and estimated connection sometime between January 2025 & December 2026. So looking like it ain't coming anytime soon!

    Anyhow we currently use Vodafone mobile broadband - very inconsistent at times almost unusable, which is a disaster as we both WFH currently.

    I've only just heard of the Starlink satellite broadband. The upfront hardware cost is expensive but to be honest it would be worth it for us given the pathetic speeds and unreliable connection that we currently have.

    I've been reading that the included Starlink router wifi range is poor, so will be needing to setup a mesh network so we have decent connectivity both upstairs and downstairs.

    The longwinded intro above is leading into my main question... how many units do you think we would need to have decent coverage throughout our house? We live in an approx. 2,000 square foot dormer.

    Wife works downstairs in the sitting room (the Starlink router will be housed here), whilst I work from a spare bedroom upstairs.

    Looking at buying Eero 6+ or Pro 6 for the mesh network. These are typically sold in one, two or three unit packs. Do you think would two of these units be sufficient for us - or better off getting the 3 pack?

    TIA - have zero experience with mesh network previously so just wondering what more experienced people think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,327 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    It's called 'pass through' or 'bridge mode' on the eir router... you access the settings through the IP address of the router in your browser.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,607 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Don't know anything about the 6 sorry, I have the original setup.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,607 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Thats it thanks.

    I tried logging into eir modem to update it which worked but when I disconnected the eir router from the socket on the wall and replaced with the Google one (so the signal goes through that) it wouldn't work?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭dam099


    If using the Eir router in bridge mode you need to leave it connected to the ONT (wall socket) and connect the Nest to it.

    If not using phone or TV many routers can be connected directly to the ONT if they support VLAN tagging. I think I saw people report that the original Nest may not support it but their support page suggests if (firmware) is recently updated it would so they may have added support.




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,607 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Thanks we use eir TV so sounds like we need to leave the eir router connected and just switch it to bridge mode.

    Will check that out, thanks



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,042 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    My brother had the same issues with getting reliable internet in rural Ireland. He got the starlink system along with a set of 3 TP Link Deco mesh unit, not sure the model exactly but not Wifi 6 capable I don't think. Anyway he has been raving about it ever since he got it, the speed is fast and consistent. The only thing I'd say is Eero mesh system is a bit overkill considering you probably have very few wifi 6 capable devices and the actual download speeds through starlink will be the bottleneck although still perfectly fine for anything you need. I guess you are future proofing for if and when you get proper broadband though



  • Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭gaillimh


    Yeah that's it exactly. I've been able to get a set of three Eero 6 Pro units for €200. Thinking I'll make proper use of them when fibre finally arrives here.

    I wouldn't have paid full price for them right now but think €200 is good value as I'd have to buyt something one way or another given that the wifi range is apparently poor with the Starlink router.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭NabyLadistheman


    I have Eir TV and the Eir router disconnected since I got it. Works without issue



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,607 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Thanks, so you run the cable from the wall socket to your Google wifi with the eir modem set to bridge mode and it works ok?

    The eir modem is not plugged in at all?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭54and56


    Hi all,

    I invested in a Taotronic Tri-Band AC3000 triple router Mesh System in 2021 for my house and it's been bullet proof.

    I now need to buy a system for single floor apartment of circa 1,300 Sq Ft and Taotronic no longer sell their Mesh system so I'm looking for a steer on what system I should go for as I'm sure things have moved on in the last couple of years and whether a 2 router or 3 router system is needed to give strong coverage throughout the property.

    Appreciate any suggestions you may have.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭jem


    Hi

    I have eir router FTTH also have 3 of their mesh units ( due to a row they gave them to me for free )

    want to boost my signal outside. What could I put one of their mesh units into that keep it dry but no effect wifi signal.

    On another note I have an ORBI RBR50 and two satilites. can I connect these to the eir network as boosters without changing my eir router? bridge or something?

    james



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Curently have Virgin with Google Nest WiFi. Eir FTTH now available in our estate - I wasn't here when the sales guy was around, but told my wife we 'wouldn't need' mesh with the Eir router. I assume this is nonsense? We have a standard enough 4 bed semi-d, use mesh for upstairs home office and kitchen extension/back garden. I have seen some talk that there are issues with Google and Eir but this seems to be solved by using bridge mode or turning off WiFi on the Eir router?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    I have Eir broadband and use Nest mesh wifi... Haven't had any issues yet...



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,607 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Hi lads, have been trying for months to sort out the nest vs eir router problem we often hsve.

    Is there a dummys guide to putting your eir router into bridge mode?

    Do you run the cable from the wall socket to your Google wifi with the eir modem set to bridge mode?

    Is the eir modem is not plugged in at all?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,634 ✭✭✭Damien360


    I have google nest WiFi mesh setup since 2020 and for the last few weeks it's loosing connection to one of the satellites. Reboot the main router and it works again for a few days. Currently connected to VF fibre.

    I reckon my system is giving up but I can't get replacements for any of the units as it's no longer made and they just sell the newer WiFi 6 models which is not cheap.

    Anyone recommend alternatives that will do the trick or a reliable source for spare satellites and main router. Or anything else that works reliablely and won't be out of date so quickly.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    You can still get the original one and it'll work perfectly with your system...

    I managed to get one refurbished for €59.


    https://store.google.com/ie/product/google_wifi_2nd_gen?hl=en-GB



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭dam099


    If the Eir modem is not plugged in at all that's not bridge mode. In bridge mode it would be Socket -> Eir Router -> Nest Main Unit. Bridge mode is selected in the ISP's router and changes it from acting as a Router/Modem to just a Modem leaving routing to your Nest.

    If you have FTTH then you can bypass the Eir device completely if your Nest model supports VLAN tagging and connect it directly to the wall (ONT).



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,607 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Thanks, yes we have FTTH but I'm not sure if our Nest is compatible with your last point (it's not that new).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    Dont get these consumer meshes. Get a proper Ubiquiti access points



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,634 ✭✭✭Damien360


    What would be a good mesh system from them that would be comparable or better than google wifi 6 offering. I’m in the market for something to replace my failing google Nest wifi.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    You can buy Ubiquiti access points that provide meshing with Wifi 6. The big thing is that they need a home network. You need backhaul on ethernet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    What a load of utter shite!

    Do not get a high end system, they are expensive, complex to set-up and maintain and cost allot more to buy & run than a consumer model!

    Most people don't have huge requirements on their system, they just need reliable coverage throughout a house and good speeds and able to handle whatever home automation stuff they have. In that case, most consumer mesh systems are well up to the task.

    If you are an extreme gamer or are running a porn farm, then consider Ubiquity... In either of those cases you're unlikely to be on boards asking for recommendations, you'll already know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,327 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    id disagree, a ubiquiti system doesn't have to be that expensive at all, not that complex to set up and I havent had any noticeable maintenance or higher running costs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    so you'd advise anyone to use this system over a mesh wifi! What is your recommendation for the wires needed between units? chased through the walls and floors, pinned to the walls & up the stairs? pull off all of the skirting boards and hide the cabling behind them, or just move into a new, prewired house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,327 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    you can see above which if your points i disagreed with to be fair, and if you dont have some level of ethernet wiring in the house maybe not suitable, but it is certainly better and ive seen people who could use it instead going for mesh units when they really shouldnt.



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