Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

For eight decades, Israel has used the greatest historical outrage of all, the Holocaust, as the ultimate moral blackmail to buy the west's silence. Over those eight decades, Israel steadily became a monster. Every awful act that Israel committed could be justified because the Holocaust happened.

Nobody in a position of power in the west was prepared to stand up to Israel in any way, ever. Israel was enabled like an out of control son being enabled by a wealthy pushover father. Anything they wanted, they got. They spiralled more and more out of control.

Politicians in the west fell over themselves to be as pro-Israel as possible because they feared the consequences of not being seen to be as pro-Israel as possible. Ursula von der Leyen did, because she's German, and Nazi Germany committed the Holocaust, and Ursula von der Leyen feels German guilt and so goes full cheerleader for Israeli war excess. Keir Starmer does it because he wants power and wants to be seen to be the opposite of Jeremy Corbyn. Joe Biden does it because if you're not seen to be fanatically pro-Israel, you're toast in the US.

We never, ever hear of a western politician in a position of power calling for Israel to remove the illegal settlements in the West Bank. Never. Israel occupies the west bank. Each time Palestinians tried peaceful resistance, they were shot down completely. The BDS movement is an example of peaceful resistance. What happens? It's met with constant, furious cries of anti-Semitism. There is no resistance that cannot be anti-Semitic according to Israel's supporters. That's totalitarianism.

"Never again" is being used to justify "again".

Tell me again how pictures of Hamas are going to win end of year awards 🤡

They certainly are not anti war.

You have to wonder if the hawks ( like BIBI) see this as a golden opportunity to finally firmly and decisively deal with what they see as the Palestinian problem?

would they retake all of Gaza and exile the entire two million population?

the American public won’t back boots on the ground in Ukraine but will happily sign a blank cheque for any action at the behest of Israel

This opinions stated in this article are widespread in Israel and amount to genocidal frenzy.

These are its recommnedations:

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In order for this to happen, Israel needs to demand four key points with greater determination than ever before:

1. The entire population of Gaza will either move to Egypt or move to the Gulf. From our perspective, every building in Gaza known to have Hamas headquarters underneath, including schools and hospitals, is considered a military target.
2. Every vehicle in Gaza is considered a military vehicle transporting combatants. Therefore, there is no vehicular traffic, and it does not matter whether it is transporting water or other critical supplies.
3. The UN secretary-general has initiated humanitarian aid to Gaza. The Israeli condition for any aid should be a visit by the Red Cross to Israeli hostages and especially the civilians among them. Until this happens, no aid of any kind will be permitted to enter into Gaza.
4. Intermediators with both diplomatic and military experience will be required to explain in detail these concepts to the rest of the world. It will not be possible to remove Hamas without exerting pressure and if the Americans do not receive a clear and detailed explanation from Israeli officials and understand that Israel has no choice. It is comparable to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, which led to the launch of an atomic bomb in Japan.

As a result, Gaza will become a place where no human being can exist, and I say this as a means rather than an end. I say this because there is no other option for ensuring the security of the State of Israel. We are fighting an existential war.