General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

The Ref afraid to give a second penalty. that was more blatant

And everyone wonders why United fans want the Glazers out of the club. A mess and finally other people are catching on.

Like statues out there ManU

Is there any chance of Ferandes ever getting dropped? The guy is septic

The guy is captain of Man Utd. Says it all about the state of that team.

A year in and no sign of what ETHs football is supposed to look like

Antony is some spanner....what was he at there!

Fernandes is a terrible choice for captain. When things aren’t going well he’s not the type to drag the team into a game, just gets fairly petulant.

But is ETH doing well to get a tune out of them? Onana,erikson,Amrabat,Hoiljund,Mount,Anthony are all his players and you wouldn't get one decent player out of the lot of them. The Glazers can't be blamed for not backing the manager with transfer funds. Anthony is only an expensive fidget spinner to be honest.

Anyone who makes Bruno captain needs to be questioned,he is supposed to be a leader but acts like a spoilt child. EtH won't drop Rashford. The way he handled the Maguire and Sancho incidents were poor. He should of waited until Maguire had signed for another club before saying he wasn't good enough for Utd.

Look everyone knows the Glazers are poor owners but utd supporters are too quick to blame them when things go wrong on the field each time.

Utd and Chelsea both seem to think they can out spend the likes of City for success but that's not going to cut it anymore. The only hope they have is to go back to basics, figure out what type of club they want to be and install leadership that match that vision then build from that base.

What made Utd great was having Sir Alex and a good bunch of local lads bought into a common goal. Not a bunch of mercenaries bought so that the fans can have their superstar signings. The Glazers were there during Fergusons reign and it didn't stop him from competing. He certainly wouldn't have given up after a soft penalty today and would have used it and Sir Bobby's departure to egg on the team.

No one is absolving ETH from the blame, today was a shambles and the subs were atrocious. Thing is, it's the same ole. As fans, we've seen this Ole, Mourinho, Moyes and LvG. It's literally the exact same merry go round just with different players and different managers.

The shambles that Chelsea are in, honestly. Is that Pochettino's fault (they were a shambles before he came in), the players fault (many of them are new) or Todd Boehly's fault (chaotic decisions, transfers, etc). Honest question.

Pochettino only came in this summer so how many of those signing were his? I wouldn't compare the two situations at the moment because ETH has had the time to bring in more of the players he wanted. Now that's not to say Chelsea are a complete mess and if Poch gets in 3-4 of the players he wants and there is no improvement next season then yes I would be putting some of the blame at his feet

Didn't realise Poch signed 12 players,that changes things alright,He should definitely be doing better and in fairness would be a more experienced manager than ETH.

I suppose just looking at it from the outside,Last season was a very good season for him and utd,win a trophy and secure champions league. You couldn't ask for much more than that. Now no one was expecting them to compete for the league this season but surely they should be consolidating and getting top 4 this season. It's more or less the same players with a few of his own new additions. He could turn things around yet and get top 4 and it could still turn into a decent season for Utd

'I don't think ETH is the fundamental problem...................'

Thankfully, Kelly moves over to Carragher

Doesn't work......we're back to the usual rant