Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

You state - “Having been to Gaza, Jordan, Golan Hieghts Syria, Iraq I can guarantee you that your sexual preferences, or anyone elses, is the last thing on the minds of the Palestinian people”. So in your worldly view the oppression is so great they are worrying about survival and not about LGBT rights?

That may be true but if the oppression is so great why then are the Palestinians/Gazans every day congregating on the border with sling shots and rockets and not working? Doesn’t seem to me like they are scrounging around for crumbs or warmth to keep them alive? Are these rockets charitable contributions or can they not be exchanged for food? If they were really in dire need of survival they would have to leave or would die on the streets. They’re not doing that in massive numbers. For the most part they are living their self imposed compressed lives in some kind of debt to the land.

But they believe if they can sell this story to the world that there is massive oppression, but oppression they chose to hold onto and embrace in some attempt to display their manhood, and to demonstrate their preference for land over life, that they think confronting Israel and digging their heels in, they can overcome what is a much more black history of the Jewish people. Their time in Gaza is a joke compared to the Jews history around the world. Let us remember their poverty is in a large way self inflicted. Have they not rejected and destroyed desalination and solar power plants built for them by the Israelis because in their view it was some kind of Zionist cooperation? All economic cooperation with Israel is rejected outright.

And as for the LGBT community in the first world being in your words: “privileged, entitled, immature, narrow-minded, over-indulged and frankly world-ignorant tiny section of our first-world society”. Obviously your attempts to enlighten us with your grasp of things in the eyes of Palestinians isn’t showing your liking of first world society. If you really have that distorted a view on it, then why defend this country as you so possibly do, which I have determined by you so fondly reminding us of your vast military connections and knowledge.

And as for that sweet entitled world in which us Irish live in, you can thank the English for that. Calling for world outside US/British oversight is naive and traitorous to the lives spent guaranteeing that freedom by harking back to times when we were oppressed. No doubt you hark for a world under Nazi or Russian rule in some warped alternate reality where Ireland is supposedly free. The levels of depravity and mass murder would be ten times that of the English.

You also wish to patronise the poster with your supposed worldly view despite it being distorted in feelings of oppression and lack. Irish people lived happily for the majority of our existence. This idea of oppression is was always has been a carrot to sell to the population to geta minority into power. We see it today with the exploitation/spreading/ perpetuation of homelessness, addiction, poverty.

When the reality is, it is a very small section of society suffering under those conditions, usually the exploiters make it out it is much larger section than it actually is. And that exploitation and magnifying of it and even relief of it financially, perpetuates it. Often they were willing to die for that power. All societies have rich and poor people. The exploiters have and always will sell populism and oversell the poverty, and the hope of a better life, once they get the masses to murder the more successful hard working people or in their view their harsh masters.

Your act of - I have seen the world I only wish to enlighten you of my worldly view - is also tainted in consesesncion and warped sense of how the world really is. It also smacks of military elitism that your viewpoint is more accurate or that you know the ingredients of freedom more than the poster. When the real answer is that civility and civilisation not war/revolution/liberty/military is the reason for freedom.

End note - Given you’ve in previous posts stated that you know the blast radius of different makes of rocket launchers and have experience with explosives I think we can safely say you are military personnel of some kind. Moreover, your posting of maps of plane flight paths and preaching of your travails to war zones indicates this.

Excellent post.