Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

You couldn't make it up , I see you're all for "drinkers" rights ! But not human rights like , life , liberty, education ! Unreal !

Water is a human right. (Except in the United States, where terms and conditions apply)

And ... this whole thread is concerned with human rights like "life" "liberty" etc. and yes, the right to education is also under attack in Israel, which has gone mentioned in the media though it admittedly doesn't get enough attention here:

Those same "kids" indoctrinated with twisted ideology, it takes a special kind of evil to persuade a kid to strap himself/ herself with explosives and detonate it on a bus !

Not sure what your point is there @Overheal? The allies commited numerous what we now call war crimes on German civilians and worse again on the Japanese. Israel is at least making an effort limiting civilians deaths. That's the complete opposite.

Of course innocent children died in all of the above. They are not to blame. But their parents, jubilantly voting for terrorist agressor regimes, are to blame when those glorious plans backfired and they lost the war. Germany and Japan accepted that, didn't point any finger and became very successful and peaceful countries after. I really hope the same will happen to the Palestinians.

Go back to the start of the thread, here are just a few:

"Hamas are correct to militarily engage the Zionist regime in Palestine. There is only Palestine, and Palestinians are brothers of the 32-County Irish and Basques."

"The thieves of Palestine have no rights."

"You could swap the word Isreal for the Britain. Palestinian for Ireland and Hamas for IRA.

Thats why a lot of Irish people support Palestinian cause."

"Fair play to Hamas for stepping up to the mark"

None of the children in question today were born in the 1990s. This is an irrelevant bit of victim blaming of children being bombed this very moment.

So the video of the IDF tank shooting, pretty much point blank range at a car with a family in it.... They were... human shields?

Ah the start of the thread where all the loony's, trolls etc... pop out and either get banned or disappear. Completely different than posters actively engaging on here that are Pro-Hamas. Unless those posters are still posting on here?

Before making false accusations like that, please look at my post history on this thread and educate yourself on what is a war crime as defined by international humanitarian law. I have done nothing of the sort. In fact the opposite. I have called out war crimes commited by "good" countries like the USA

From what we can see so far, there have been no war crimes commited by Israel in this conflict.

Good point, I have no idea if those tactics would work or not. I can only assume Israel is going for the most effective / efficient way of destroying Hamas. If they deliberately weren't, they would have a lot to answer for.

I don't what is going on here in this post, but it sounds like an emotional response or by someone who consumes a lot of Fox News version of the world. Half the population were not born at the last election and i would say a good chuck of the rest were still under age, so the minority alive voted for Hamas. I presume you know Bibi and the rest of the Israeli government actively pushed support to Hamas so they would win and strip power from the PLO. The PLO were secular, Hamas were born out of the Muslim Brotherhood, so the hand wringing you are doing about Islamic culture and buzz words if a bit rich when Israel itself helped create the monster. You would swear nothing ever happened up the North the way some people here are going on, as if we didn't have a direct example of a near apartheid state where the military and police forces only worked to protect one side and the others were 2nd class citizens in every way. Religion was used as shoe horn to keep the divide going. It is nearly a copy and paste job all the way down to the tactics of both sides. I am in no way justifying the attacks on October 7th but the war did not start then, just like the Bush administration after 9/11, the IDF and the Israeli government are jumping for joy as now they get their green light to kill people at will.

I mean look at the hostages, not one iota is given about them by the IDF, they even planted far right activists at the meeting with Bibi to say they should continue with the murderous campaign as their child would want it to happen and the likes. If Hamas were wiped out tomorrow I would be happy but there is absolutely no justification for killing thousands of innocent civilians people to get at them, none. Only a very sick individual would want it to happen. For those that claim that Hamas are cowards for using human shields and hiding in the population, be okay if the British, while pursuing republican terrorists, parked a battle ship off the coast and shelled the hell out of Dublin and Belfast just to get a small number of individuals, no you wouldn't but because the people of Gaza are seen as less than human and a darker colour it is perfectly fine, I mean, why don't they just move to the other side of their box (where they are been airstriked as well) and take shelter. Who needs food and water anyway.

I don't disagree with that. We need a far more pliable Israeli regime, like we had with Rabin, to setup a lasting peaceful co-existance in the area

The Israelis have children too and I'm sure get no satisfaction from a child's death , but Hamas don't value life sending boys out to throw stones knowing it could get them killed just shows how dispensable their lives are ! I wonder if its Hamas leaders kids being sacrificed ! Most of their leaders live very well in Qatar far from the carnage !

Well, based on what I've seen, they are deliberately choosing the way that isn't the most effective or most efficient but makes them feel the most feelings. And I think they will indeed have a lot to answer for, and I think that's reflected in Bibi's poll numbers and questions from the media about him resigning. His poll numbers were already incredibly bad before this happened and he hasn't caught the same big wave of support GWB did after 9/11, about half of Israelis don't want an escalated war with Gaza. None of them want to hear more reports about more dead children.