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New World Rugby Calendar and World Cup format

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,583 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Financial resources like the wealthy nation of South Africa? Lack of financial resources like Spain?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭ScissorPaperRock


    We were talking about Fiji, Samoa, and Tonga, where the national GDPs are around $4.3b, $840m, and $470m, respectively, and GDPs per capita are $7,000, $4,600, and $3,800. You look at the economic capacity of these countries, and at the fact they produce rugby talent that is recognised as being among the best in the major professional rugby competitions, and come to the conclusion that they don't put financially attractive offers on the table for T1 countries because of... lack of interest?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,188 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Rugby governing bodies are not, in fact, government agencies.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    How much of Spain's financial and economic clout is available to Spanish rugby? If you know something we don't them give the evidence because to all else it's self-evident rugby in Spain does not have access to deep pockets. Nor are rugby unions public sector agencies. IIRC FC Barcelona doesn't have a rugby team.

    By your logic the USA should reign supreme in rugby cos their economy is the largest in the world. They're not even close. While precisely how much clout does Fiji, Georgia, Uruguay have?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,188 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    IIRC FC Barcelona doesn't have a rugby team.

    They actually do. But it is invested in much as you would expect and it doesn't aid the Spanish rugby union to attract T1 tests (of which they have played about 8 or 9 total in their history, 5 of which were against Argentina).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Barcelona FC does have a ruqby club as part of its sports clubs. Ive coached teams against some of their underage teams on tour here.

    But yeah Spanish rugby doesnt have great access to deep pockets...



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Ah, guessed wrong, even after a cursory Google - though that alone probably hints at rugby's importance at Barcelona. But yeah, this subject is going around and around in ever increasingly baffling twists of logic.

    T2: it's all your fault for being gold diggers for wanting a degree of parity, but also for not pressing the button marked "leverage your nation's wealth". Weird segue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,128 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Are you honestly being serious in this discussion or are you doing something else? I'm honestly not sure. Nobody can be that..........



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,829 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    The RWC is also getting a new corporate identity, starting with the the 2025 women’s tournament, a rugby ball with the letters “RWC”.

    Never quite sure why they abandoned the classic blue and green ball logo (lasted essentially unchanged from 1987-2015) in the first place or why they’re dumping its replacement after only two tournaments.

    https://www.world.rugby/news/887975/new-visual-identity-revealed-as-rugby-world-cup-embraces-future-and-rugbys-unique-energy#:~:text=The%20new%20Rugby%20World%20Cup,and%20legacy%20of%20the%20game.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,188 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    It is a weird global phenomenon of simplifying logos and basically removing any style to them. It is horrendous.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 940 ✭✭✭tgdaly


    There's a lot I don't understand about it, like they said there'll be relegation starting in 2030, but then I also heard that the 6n and rugby championship teams can't be relegated. So does that mean only Fiji and Japan can be relegated? And only if one of them finishes last?


    Also I read SANZAAR get to pick the other 2 teams in it. I'm not convinced that it's not going to be fixed for USA to be in it, the last thing World Rugby will want is for USA not to be competitive in their own World Cup, they aren't going to get that in division 2



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Can anyone point to anything official describing the relegation and promotion? I cant find anything other than differing interpretations in some posts here

    the idea that only japan and Fiji can be relegated presumably means they will be relegated in the first season (2030) and replaced by top 2 teams in division two - then those same two teams will be relegated the following year as they are the only ones can be

    this makes no sense

    alternatively only one is relegated but the same nonsensical logic would apply - regardless of where they finish at least one gets relegated??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,500 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    They have released absolutely no relevant details so far, basically nothing beyond the concept of the competition.

    Ideally they shouldn't have announced it until all that had been sorted, with realms of powerpoints, PDFs and spreadsheets to answer all these questions. Perhaps it wouldn't have been possible to prevent (the delegates who voted either way were always likely to leak) but even some sort of timetable of when there'll be an official structure would have been helpful and reduced the criticism.



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