FCPN for "driver overtaking on left"

How can you receive a fcpn for something that is legal?

Don’t sweat it. You’ll wake up in the morning and realise there’s another thread to be started which may fool people even more.

Overtaking on the left is not an offence on a multilane single carriageway

And if it was a dual carriageway, then you are supposed to drive on the left, and this if this lane was not restricted at that time then that was the one that you should be driving in.

The law on this doesn't mention either multi lane single carriageways or dual carriageways. Just that you can't do it outside of three specific circumstances.

It strikes me that she should also have issued herself a penalty point notice for failure to drive on the left hand side of the road. Outside of bus lane hours, the bus lane is the left hand side of the road.

You can only overtake on the left -

1. where the driver of the overtaking vehicle intends, after overtaking to turn left at the next road junction and has signalled this intention,
2. in slow moving traffic, where vehicles in the traffic lane on the driver's right are moving more slowly than the overtaking vehicle.

If it was in slow moving traffic (i.e. queueing or stop start traffic) or you had already indicated to turn left there's no offence.

There doesn't seem to be any penalty point offense of 'overtaking on the left'

Dangerous overtaking is a penalty point offense but dangerous is a high bar to jump.

For dangerous driving ‘Dangerous to the public’ is not defined in statute. However, decisions in various cases would seem to indicate that it is driving in a manner which a reasonably prudent man having knowledge of all the circumstances proved in court would clearly recognise as involving unjustifiably definite risk of harm to the public.

Dangerous driving can have a two year prison sentence, overtaking on the left before taking a left turn could hardly be considered to warrant so severe a sentence, especially when the car being overtaken should have been in the left (bus) lane.

A behaviour that really p1sses me off is when there is a slow moving lane on the left and a turn up to the left. You wait in line to get to the top to make your turn.

If there is a hard shoulder to the side of the road then some ar$ehole invariable decides that, because they are turning left themselves and feel special, that they can undertake all the rest of the people waiting their turn and obeying the road markings.

In an urban area, if the OP was not speeding and was able to pass traffic then that traffic was slowly moving.

Op has not said what speed they were travelling at.

If limit was 50 and Garda was doing 40 and op undertaking at 50, it would be considered inconsiderate driving

If Garda was doing 20 and op was doing 30, then no case to answer imo.

So op needs to ask themselves if the Garda car was travelling freely at a reasonable speed.

There are more penalty points offences than the RSA list on their site.

Why not post the location of where it happened so that people who you are asking have more information with which to better formulate their opinions on the matter?

If you right click on google maps at the location, it will give you the GPS coordinates.

There most definitely are.

The OP has already proven it to you by receiving a fine for an offence not listed.

The list on the RSA abridges the offences list by grouping various offences together by category/penalty eg. Level crossings are listed as 'failure to obey traffic rules at railway level crossing'. There are 21 seperate penalty point offences which can be committed at a level crossing but they aren't listed in full on the RSA list.

Similarly there are seven seperate overtaking offences all carrying the same penalty, including the OP's offence. All of which are grouped together by the RSA as 'Dangerous Overtaking'.

It's not a full and complete list of every seperate offence, I can't say more than that. Some of us deal with this for a living and have access to a complete list by seperate offences, ya can take the information or leave it, upto yourself, it's no skin off my nose.

I've explained to you how the offences are being grouped by the RSA, you can take it or leave it lad.

New account, ‘help me with this problem’ thread and then ignore all advice and dodge any probing questions.

This is our usual dreamer alright.

I’m annoyed at myself for wasting my time by skimming through this thread.

Eh, no that's not what I said at all.

I stated the RSA have grouped offences under headings such as level crossing offences, overtaking etc. They list 'using a vehicle with defective or worn tyres', there are over 40 seperate offences which incur penalty points in relation to tires.

The RSA is not a full and complete list is my point, there are many other offences they've lumped under general headings in their list.

If with due care is 2 what's without?🤑

Does this rule apply outside of the posted bus lane times?

I'm not aware of any law that makes this distinction when it comes to overtaking on the left.

No issue overtaking in bus lanes when traffic on the right is moving slowly.

Except higher points and a higher fine; which is quite a bit of harm.