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Kerry Airport - News & Updates

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    #452
    user52873
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭user52873


    Cork's runway is just 2,133m, so thats not any factor in limiting number of flights. But when EIKN is having 10-12 flights a day it makes you wonder. Kerry has a lot of private traffic though, it's really shining there.



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    #453
    L1011
    Registered Users Posts: 68,788 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Ryanair are short on aircraft due to Boeing being incompetent so would be unable to add more in the short term anyway



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    #454
    embraer170
    Registered Users Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭embraer170


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121318516#Comment_121318516

    Ryanair are always cutting and launching routes. It’s just a question of where the most money is to be made.



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    #455
    Cosmo Kramer
    Registered Users Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121318441#Comment_121318441


    Cork has an extra 130m metres of runway over Kerry though, which can make a big difference. Once you're down around the 2000 metres mark you're potentially looking at having to reduce passenger numbers on longer flights like the Canary Island routes where a heavy fuel load is needed for the distance. Even if you are restricted in loads by 10 or 15 passengers it can be enough to make a route unviable.



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    #456
    user52873
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭user52873


    Wellington Airport has a 1,815m runway and takes flights in from Australia / Fiji which are comparible in distance to the Canaries .. Kerry's runway can handle that with 737 or A320 jets, no need to restrict a thing.



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    #457
    IngazZagni
    Registered Users Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭IngazZagni


    It's not just runway length that's an issue with takeoff performance but also terrain in the area. I'm not sure about takeoff performance exactly but the approach profile has a higher than normal approach gradiant because of terrain. 3.5 degrees vs 3 degrees in Cork for example. So this could also be an issue.


    We also need to be real here. Ireland is a small island with a small population. It has more airports than it needs. The likes of Ryanair would also negatively affect their services in Cork and Shannon if they were to launch the same route out of Kerry. However I really do hope Kerry does manage to attract new services in the future but it'll always be a tough battle.



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    #458
    lordleitrim
    Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭lordleitrim


    https://www.radiokerry.ie/news/kerry-airport-applies-for-planning-for-new-aircraft-building-355238


    Good news which reflects Kerry airport's booming private aircraft business.



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    #459
    lordleitrim
    Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭lordleitrim


    Saw an ad for Kerry to Faro recently for 3 flights a week next year from April to October. I'm glad to hear that as I has heard Ryanair currently has a dispute over charges with Faro airport and feared this route could've been dropped similar to what happened with Berlin a few years ago over a similar charges dispute!



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    #460
    embraer170
    Registered Users Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭embraer170


    Hahn is still not bookable for next summer.



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    #461
    embraer170
    Registered Users Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭embraer170


    Hahn is now on sale for summer 2024. Unfortunately down to 2 flights a week. This is down from 4 many years ago, to 3 and now 2.



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    #462
    lordleitrim
    Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭lordleitrim


    http://traleetoday.ie/kerry-airport-passenger-numbers-set-to-exceed-400000-by-end-of-2024/


    Nice to see 400k pax will be exceeded this year! Hopefully the 500k milestone can be achieved in the next couple of years.



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    #463
    Coffeelock2020
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭Coffeelock2020


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    Interesting expansion into France from Kerry


    https://www.facebook.com/share/UhXuk756Jj2RWouq/?mibextid=WC7FNe



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    #464
    Geuze
    Registered Users Posts: 13,395 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2024/0213/1432002-3-new-french-flights-from-kerry-airport/

    Never heard of Chalair.

    I presume these aren't standard 189-seat aircraft?



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    #465
    Coffeelock2020
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭Coffeelock2020


    Chalair are a small French regional airline they commenced flying out of Kerry last summer on a seasonal basis

    They operate the ATR aircraft into Kerry



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    #466
    yerwanthere123
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,456 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Good to hear, obviously the flights must've been somewhat successful then so? Would love to hear what the load factors were like.



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    #467
    Quackster
    Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,784 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121760955#Comment_121760955

    Once a week on Saturdays like last year. It seems Pau is being serviced via Brest, not directly, but still a doubling of last summer's Chalair operation out of Kerry.



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    #468
    lordleitrim
    Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭lordleitrim


    Nice to see these rather bespoke routes being announced. I had to google Pau and Caen as I'd never heard of them before!!

    I'm still hoping Ryanair's yet to be announced summer schedule for Kerry might add another new route but I'm guessing we'd have heard about such a new route through the grapevine by now? It's getting a bit late from a marketing perspective not to have announced anything yet. Ryanair has already revealed increased frequencies for both Faro and Alicante and I think Manchester for the season ahead.

    I still think Lanzarote, Malaga or maybe Birmingham or Edinburgh could do really well as possible new destinations. Here's hoping!



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    #469
    JCX BXC
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    It's very unlikely anything would be announced with 6 weeks until the start of their summer schedule.



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    #470
    embraer170
    Registered Users Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭embraer170


    I think the main thing out of this summer’s Ryanair Kerry schedule is a reduced frequency to HHN, but increased frequencies to Spain and Portugal (4x weekly Alicante, 3x weekly Faro running into late October).

    Luton also seems to have gained slightly at the expense of Stansted, with 8x weekly to the former compared to 5x weekly to Stansted (no flight on FRI/SAT). I can’t recall what Manchester was last summer but 2x weekly doesn’t seem like very much this year.



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    #471
    lordleitrim
    Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭lordleitrim


    https://www.radiokerry.ie/news/kerry-airport-experienced-its-highest-passenger-numbers-in-over-a-decade-last-year-373512



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    #472
    lordleitrim
    Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭lordleitrim


    https://www.radiokerry.ie/news/expansion-works-at-kerry-airport-expected-to-begin-before-the-end-of-this-year-374618


    Good to hear the expansion works at KIR will start before year end that will include an expanded departures lounge and a separate arrivals area.



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    #473
    Qaanaaq
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Qaanaaq


    Any updates on the new hangar they want to build? There were a few objections to it.



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    #474
    lordleitrim
    Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭lordleitrim


    Top 5 routes for Quarter 1, 2024 as per CSO stats

    Screenshot_20240614_190419_Samsung Internet.jpg



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    #475
    shamrocka330
    Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭shamrocka330


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122260493#Comment_122260493

    Terrible load factors if my calculations are correct - looking at Dublin, 2 departures per day, over the 3 month period, on an aircraft with 189 seats (ignoring that they use the MAX sometimes)….load factor of mid 30%? Open to correction.



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    #476
    yerwanthere123
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,456 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122260725#Comment_122260725

    What would you guess are the load factors for the Manchester and Frankfurt routes? The numbers looks small to me, but obviously depends on the number flights.



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    #477
    lordleitrim
    Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭lordleitrim


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122260796#Comment_122260796

    I looked at the winter schedule and Manchester and Hahn had 2 departures a week so for the 13 weeks of the quarter it averaged 120-130 pax per flight factoring in the number of pax CSO have provided. Stansted a bit better at roughly 140 pax per flight for the 3 flights per week and Luton seems to be the star performer as regards load factor with 165-170 per departure of which there were 5 a week. These are all rough calculations.

    Q1 is the quietest quarter so loads should increase significantly during Q2 and Q3 incorporating summer travel.



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