Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

I still think for the most part, the majority of people on the thread are horrified by the attacks on Israel and equally horrified by Israel's response, kinda the middle. Can see the horror on both sides.

There's a few very focal people that seem to take an extreme side, defending the IDF actions no matter and thankfully even fewer (and hopefully banned) people cheering Hamas on.

Again, she knew that putting the Palestinian flag on her twitter profile the day of the attack was pure rabble rousing.Also she didn't condemn Hamas she condemned them with a yeah but attached to it.She just did the expected thing in condemning the attacks but implied the Israelis got what they deserved.

It'd only give that impression to ignoramuses who have very little understanding of the history of the conflict.

Support for Palestinians in general, at any time, does not automatically mean support for Palestinians who commit attrocities.

Just the same as an Irish flag in the window of a house in Derry doesn't automatically mean support for the Real IRA.

There are lads that love to "row against the current" just to be difficult. But some of them doing it in this thread, given the context, are quite disturbing. They are exposed now but sink to new lows to keep up the charade.

France is in the process of introducing a law that says committing a crime against the state is punishable by up to 2 yrs in Jail and 75k fine.

PM and Home secretary in UK have called proposed marches on armistice day to be hate marches.

A UK member of house of representatives is introducing a bill proposing the denial of entry to the US for Palestinians.

German embassy in Ireland said there was a lesson for Ireland to learn how ro not promote hatred against the Jews (or something very similar, I'm not double checking right now)

The US is trying to extricate itself from reliance of oil in the Middle East. It wants out - why all the fracking and energies being poured into making the US self reliant. Besides you don’t want the US to back off. If terrorists gained control of the Suez Canal and other waterways where a huge amount of the world’s cargo passes through, we will all suffer. Not what you want is suspect.

Mary Lou didn't put a Palestinian flag on her Twitter profile on the day of the Hamas attack. TD Chris Andrews put one up the day after the attack, it has that in the article I posted. Maybe that's what your thinking of. Mary Lou did it some days later. She refused to criticise Andrews for it publicly. She condemned Hamas the day after the attack.

Unless I'm missing something. I can't find anything saying she did that on the very day of the attack, and I don't see any mention of anyone saying she did. You could be right, but I can't seem to find that anywhere.

The greatest cod of the lot is the link between Evangelical Christians in the States and Israel. It's basically something like the Evangelicals believe that the final battle between good and evil will happen in Jerusalem and that the Jews will cause it. The Jews will all be smited or converted and the righteous Christians will be lifted up to heaven. Israel goes along with and courts this daftness because it guarantees the support of a huge sway of American politicians.

If only 10 percent of wars have religion as their cause then that means that the remaining 90 % of wars have non religious causes. If that’s the case, Sooner believe in a God than believe in world without one. We can all be godless fools killing each other, can’t we, no matter how worldly wise we profess ourselves to be.

Was there people walking through Israeli cities with Palestinian flags on the day of the Hamas attacks or in the days after?

The point I'm making is that people showing support for Palestine with Palestinian flags does not mean they support Hamas. But there's many people imagining it does, because it suits their narrative.

Some people seem to assume that if someone feels sympathy towards Palestinians that they must have been delighted at the news of the Hamas attack.

Be offended at Hamas flags, don't let Palestinian flags conjure up feelings of resentment.

Your back from doing bomb damage assessments on ambulances I see. What did you settle on in the end? Hailstones?

Without trying to deflect this thread, can you provide one, just one, bit of evidence of the existence of a god or God's? And please don't insult us with "the evidence is all around us blah blah blah..."

Calling a march of hundreds of thousands of people who are advocating for peace and support for Palestine a hate march couldn't really be more obvious as to how the people doing this view Palestine but go ahead and keep your head in the sand if it makes it easier to not acknowledge the death and suffering you are in agreement with.