Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

I don't think there was a ever a Dail motion but there were plenty of calls from SF for the Russian Ambassador to be expelled. First google result is 25 February 2022.

What's strange is the Billy Kellehers of this world who made a song and dance of protesting outside the Russian embassy and offering to drive the ambassador to the airport aren't making the same noises this time around.

While I don't agree with the calls to expel either ambassador at least SF were consistent.

I have faith. If you need proof then choose not to believe. That’s the point of faith. You choose not to believe well That’s on you. But don’t think it makes you a better person than me in terms of doing or thinking the right thing. I don’t think, even as a believer, that I have a monopoly on the truth. Do you believe you have such a monopoly on truth? Simply because you don’t have faith? Apart from all of that, Only 10% of this known universe has been accounted for as in “we know what it is”. The remaining 90% is made up of dark matter and dark energy which we are still trying to figure out. I am not an advocate of a “God of the gaps” argument, but unless you know something no one else does….

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It's a shame to see people turn on Jews due to the actions of Zionists. I'd hope it's ignorance and a lack of understanding about Zionism rather than just genuine hatred of Jews. But going by the many reports in the media of acts of hatred toward Jewish people around the world since the 7th of October, it does seem that there has been an increase anti-semitism. Unfortunately there has been an increase in Islamapbobia too due to the actions of Hamas.

You obviously didn’t bother reading this discussion earlier in the thread.

Timing is everything. The flags were being flown before any retaliation by Israel. That is for some an inconvenient fact now.

There are all sorts of unsavoury elements, chants and placards at these protests as stated previously. It’s not accurate to pretend it’s all about peace. No doubt many are well intentioned but try waving an Israeli or American flag and see how peaceful many are. Look at how the anti Iranian protester was treated by an anti war crowd recently.

Note, “many” not “all” before the usual arguments start up.

Besides which where are the ‘Hamas Out’ and ‘Release Hostages Now’ signs? It takes two sides to reach a settlement.

I honestly think most don't have a clue about the real history (myself included), but I'm just shocked that close to 4k children have died in less than a month and those supporting Israel just shrug it off like it's nothing. We've seen towns and cities reduced to rubble in Ukraine by the Russians, but civilians could always evacuate, there was always a much safer place to flee to.

And the very same people/countries would be in uproar if Ukraine bombed a Russian town and left hundreds dead to take out a few soldiers etc...

If October 7th had happened say 20 years ago, there probably would have been a lot more support in the West for Israel and its 'retaliatory' action, but we're in a different world now. Bombing the hell out of a smaller and much poorer country / region and killing thousands of innocent civilians is a terrible look and people are just not in the humour for it.

For the sake of argument let’s accept what you say for a moment.

There are the actual victims of the 7th October to consider and who you omitted to mention. What would you have “felt”, had a “realisation” of or “imagine”d as a Jew or an Israeli Arab or Thai worker in Israel? The other side of what you are saying (even if true) is why the timing matters. If you can’t see that I’m sorry.

Waving a flag for Palestine now fair enough but on 7th / 8th October it was deeply insensitive at best. Respectfully I don’t understand why this even needs argued.

You’ve changed your argument. Night night.

Introducing a bill/law to specifically protect a certain cohort while not protecting others seems unjust.

It's the whole boosting a group with rights well above other citizens.

Why can't America just ban supporting any designated terrorist organisation irrespective of who gets offended by said terrorist group.

Or ban any group who would create a hostile environment to staff or students, ya know like a KKK meeting on a black campus.

Yes, and so can a knife.

But why would a knife or a gun be one of the two most important things in your life?