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RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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    #23732
    rdser
    Registered Users Posts: 47 ✭rdser


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121322143#Comment_121322143

    I actually find dobbo hard to take on the news at 1. Not sure why I just find him disingenuous for some reason. I have visions of him poking his interviewee with a stick saying dance monkey dance.. just seems to be looking for something sensationalist to come out of fairly weak interviews and topics.



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    #23733
    Tinter Box
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Tinter Box


    Any non paywall link? Would love to hear what statement was!



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    #23734
    Tow
    Registered Users Posts: 7,445 ✭✭✭Tow


    RTE News just had an article about RTE looking for an extra 9 million (I assume on top of everything else) from the government to give all the employees a pay rise. This works out as 3,600 euro a year including contractors or 5,000 if only employees get the increase.

    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?



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    #23735
    Damien360
    Registered Users Posts: 6,494 ✭✭✭Damien360


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121323023#Comment_121323023

    I can't find that article on the rte news app. If it's true, it shows a complete lack of any understanding of the public opinion at this very moment. They must be living in a D4 bubble and it needs bursting.



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    #23736
    hollypink
    Registered Users Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭hollypink



    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121322980#Comment_121322980

    That's an interesting read.

    https://archive.ph/Uf2Ci



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    #23737
    Damien360
    Registered Users Posts: 6,494 ✭✭✭Damien360


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121323327#Comment_121323327

    That's a brilliantly written article by Ellen Coyne. The last line hammered the whole thing home. "Some of us want a revolution, while others want a dinner party".

    RTE will never look inward at the waste and just wants to continue to party at everyone's expense.



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    #23738
    alzer100
    Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121322917#Comment_121322917

    But it is fact, RTE do push the governments agenda whether you realise it or not. With respect to RTE news there are numerous regional stories that are of significant importance that do not get exposure. The type of stories that would negatively highlight the governments ideology. RTE News will produce reports crafted and illustrated in an effort to get a person to think in a certain way that would be compliant with the governments ideology. Its much more deeper than just say giving one particular minister air time or the last word with respect to another. Irrespective of how you or I may feel about it, it is fact.



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    #23739
    RoTelly
    Registered Users Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    You know I'd not be surprised if some of that audience are the same people that come here to derail this thread.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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    #23740
    Caquas
    Registered Users Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Caquas


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121323363#Comment_121323363

    How extraordinary that this event was full of journalists but only Ellen Coyne has seen fit to write about it (and so well).

    No one wanted to hear uncomfortable truths. Can you imagine Pat Kenny, Ireland’s most experienced current affairs broadcaster, shutting down a genuine speaker so rudely (boring!!) if they criticised any other Irish institution?

    I love her “Srecko Horvat quote”. Did anyone in the audience know who she was talking about? She couldn’t credit Mao, so she just faked it.🤣



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    #23741
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,493 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121324089#Comment_121324089

    How many people under 30 watch the RTE news do you think? Do you really think RTE news is that important in shaping opinion?



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    #23742
    rdser
    Registered Users Posts: 47 ✭rdser


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121324984#Comment_121324984

    More so than any other outlet. Particularly with older people outside the group you mentioned. Many take rte as gospel.



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    #23743
    Damien360
    Registered Users Posts: 6,494 ✭✭✭Damien360


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121325036#Comment_121325036

    Local radio is king for those over 70 not RTE. Under 30 don't listen to RTE. The vast majority I know between 30 and 50 listen to podcasts so I'm not sure who listens to RTE.



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    #23744
    rdser
    Registered Users Posts: 47 ✭rdser


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121325060#Comment_121325060

    It's both really for the older group. They listen to the locals for the deaths and stuff like that but rte for 6 and 9pm news etc. I don't know many who get their news from podcasts tbh, from any age group. Entertainment or special interest stuff yes, news no.



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    #23745
    alzer100
    Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121324984#Comment_121324984

    I don't know whether they shape opinion or not tbh.



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    #23746
    RoTelly
    Registered Users Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121325139#Comment_121325139

    Those under 30 possibly use RTÉ News website. I haven't watched a full news bulletin. I am now old haha. But I'd say most of my news (including RTÉ's) is via the internet. I read, in the car I might get the news but lately I have my spotify and I mainly listen to music.

    I think RTÉ is more than just news and sport.

    I'd mention the various numbers of RTÉ podcasts a while back, who listens to any of their news podcasts or sports podcasts.

    Though they have culled all of their sports on twitter, it will be interesting to see if those sports podcasts are also dropped. Without anyone ever noticing they existed.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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    #23747
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,493 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121325136#Comment_121325136

    I'm older we have a quick look at the news headlines and that's about it, for in-depth news I would look at several sources, it's more the idea that RTE has some sort of power in shaping an opinion that is questionable at best.

    I was listening to a political correspondent from a national newspaper being interviewed and what struck me was how much they seemed to be floundering in who they were talking to, it was as if the same-sex sex referendum had passed them by, the same with the abortion referendum, or multicultural Ireland, or the world of Google and other similar tech companies in Ireland.

    What is it with the longing for some sort of rural conservative cohort that no longer exists?

    ?



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    #23748
    alzer100
    Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121325175#Comment_121325175

    Particularly for music and the internet there is no longer any need to rely on RTE or any local radio station to hear what you want. Unfortunately music radio died in this country and it happened on Dec 31st 1988 IMO. As much as I use Spotify myself, I miss the type of music radio that was presented to me in Dublin during the 1980s as it was the soundtrack to my youth and the folks who were involved, some of which are no longer with us. RTE never did it for me especially Radio 2/2FM as I always felt even during that time that they were always trying to catch up.



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    #23749
    RoTelly
    Registered Users Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I'm older we have a quick look at the news headlines and that's about it, for in-depth news I would look at several sources, it's more the idea that RTE has some sort of power in shaping an opinion that is questionable at best.

    @mariaalice They set the agenda by the news that they either follow or initially report on.

    You could say that most news outlets are using RTÉ, The Irish Times and to a lesser degree the Independent to report on the issues of the day.

    Thus RTÉ becomes this agenda setter.

    The internet allows you to research more in-depth sources.

    This is how the news agenda is set.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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    #23750
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,493 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121325339#Comment_121325339

    That is true, I have an idea we can have a committee made up of a statically correct representation of the citizens of Ireland setting the news agenda that is bound to be free of any bias :).



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    #23751
    RoTelly
    Registered Users Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121325389#Comment_121325389

    Really? Where would these Representatives get their news from? Who would choose these diverse people. Would certain people be exclude because they may not think the same way as the others on the committee. How long could you been on the Committee?

    IMO RTÉ should only provide news report and investigative journalism.

    Neither should be presented in a bias way, rather in a factual way. It is then up to the others to either decided to argue against or for something or to ignore it because it bares no relevance.

    RTÉ online is filled with opinion pieces, from Reporters who are rarely on the TV, doing what they should be doing, reporting.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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    #23752
    hamburgham
    Registered Users Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭hamburgham


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121322397#Comment_121322397

    Second that. Read that piece. Quite incredible. Shame on Pat Kenny.



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    #23753
    Caquas
    Registered Users Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Caquas


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121324089#Comment_121324089

    Which government are you talking about? Do you mean

    a) RTÉ changes horses after every election?

    b) all governments for the past 60+ years have had the same agenda (although Dev and Cosgrave are spinning in their graves)?

    c) RTÉ favours the current coalition because it includes

    • FF?
    • FG?
    • Greens?
    • some combination of two of the above?

    d) I’m agin the gubbimint!

    Post edited by Caquas on


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    #23754
    alzer100
    Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    Who do you think?



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    #23755
    alzer100
    Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121326091#Comment_121326091

    Or am I requesting an unrealistic deliverable?



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    #23756
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,493 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    There are stories or news that don't get the traction they should. I don't think it has to do with an agenda it has to do with complexity and social media dumbing things down to an extent.

    An issue with the HSE that has a simple narrative of the HSE, waiting lists or children waiting for treatment, can be put into simple bit size pieces, so makes the agenda, a complex issue of poor management in the HSE, or wasting money on privatisation of a service they could run cheaper themselves the cost comes from a different budge, that sort of thing can't be put into easy bit size pieces so it does not make the agenda.



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    #23757
    NIMAN
    Registered Users Posts: 33,618 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121325753#Comment_121325753

    PK has been a big defender of Tubs in this whole debacle. I think he'd also be of the mindset of Moya.



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    #23758
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users Posts: 7,407 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121324613#Comment_121324613

    First of all, fair play to you - it isn't easy being the only dissenting voice in the room. From Coynes report, it's clear that Pat Kenny and the room behaved disgracefully towards you, so you can be happy that you hit a nerve, if nothing else.

    Secondly, the report of the event made me angry. It was a love in for media types who clearly think that they and RTE are too good for the country that funds them. It also shows just how cosy things are across the media generally when no one else was willing to ask the obvious and difficult questions.

    It's becoming clear to all now that the toothpaste out of the tube when it comes to RTE and the public (and their money) have been lost forever, at least under the current model of funding.

    Close it down, sell off Montrose and start again.



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    #23759
    seanrambo87
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭seanrambo87


    @RoTelly fair play to you Ro. You have the courage of your convictions. People like you are of rare stock and this country could do with more like you. The fighting Irish? Ha, it's a myth. The few who do fight for right are pulled back down into the bucket by the rest of the crabs.

    I actually had some respect for Kenny until I read that. I enjoyed his insight from time to time. The man is a shill and he can see the writing on the wall. He'll have to start attaching locks to more and more gates in his area to keep him in the style he's accustomed to.



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    #23760
    RoTelly
    Registered Users Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So you'd have to laugh

    These are the members of the RTS committee, I have removed the lesser know people but all are connected to RTÉ in some way

    • Deputy Chair: Niall Cogley - A good old fashioned RTÉ Nepo Baby - Former head of sport and then head of events at TV3
    • Larry Bass - Mr Sunday Night TV himself
    • Mark Carpenter - Sky
    • Alan Esslemont - DG TG4
    • Adrian Lynch - Deputy DG RTÉ
    • Bill Malone - Former Controller of RTÉ2, former head of content TV3
    • Aoife Stokes - Head of TV VMTV (aka TV3)

    ho hum!


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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    #23761
    NIMAN
    Registered Users Posts: 33,618 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121323327#Comment_121323327

    Could someone cut and paste it?

    I'm only getting a capthca repeatedly.



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