General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

"got booked for this Havertz tackle" no they got booked for dissent which these Newcastle players are used to getting away with.

How do VAR explain that it wasn't a red, when it was a full studded out of control tackle, where he caught him on the ankle wit the raised foot, and again with the trailing foot.

If that's what you call anti-football, you should watch Newcastle United. At least Arsenal can string together a few passes.

Newcastle's goal was mired in VAR controversy. 2 minutes later the referee is able to award Arsenal a corner with the ball in exactly the same position.

Burn was allowed kick Saka all half and no card for that. Himself and Bruno should have been off along with Havertz.

A lot of this season's "big game win"s have the smell of VAR off them.

Will they be able to sustain that for every game over the next 7 months? They're putting in massive shifts at the moment defensively and working off of the ball. I don't think they've learned to control games through midfield yet.

He's a Newcastle fan.

A terrible day for referees and VAR.

Between that game, Utd and Wolves getting screwed, it's quite clear the whole system is only getting worse.

Arteta not holding bad 🤬🤬🤬🤬

Areta talking about the Ref and VAR team

I guess it's just a coincidence that the unbelievably bad calls this season benefited the Saudi clubs, and cost their closest challengers.

I mean, Arteta is right, but no doubt he was thankful that VAR is useless when Havertz didn't get red carded.

Aw but are they really that incompetent? It's hard to believe calls that a 5 year old could make correctly, they get wrong, with all the angles, all the replays, all the slow mo, so I think there is more to it personally. It's not believable that they're incompetent.

Like Kompany last week complaining when a VAR decision went against Burnley but after Klopp spoke he said that mistakes happen and you have to live with it.

"Bruno G to kick and poke and bully them“ and elbow them in the head when the ball was gone.

That was a big difference between Havertz and Bruno. Havertz could claim he was going for the ball. No way was Jorginho expecting an elbow as he'd played the ball by then. VAR bottled that one completely as it was late, cynical, nasty and off the ball.

I really hope Arteta is supporting the officials after today's game

On field decision was a goal but you’d have to wonder has the lino actually made a decision on it or is he relying on VAR to make the decision for him

That semi automated VAR would have had a definitive answer in this instance. Pity it wasn’t brought in

Football was better before VAR, yes ther were wrong decisions, but with VAR ther still is wrong decisions, its taken some of the magic away of football, and the joy of a goal.

Think you're an Everton fan so know you'd have been happy with the outcome, but Dunks strike today encapsulates what you've said there. A great strike then standing around waiting for a decision

Arteta had his chance after the Diaz farce. He chose to say 'mistakes happen'.

Hold the L I'm afraid.

How did Var not conclude it was offside however is beyond me? You can throw doubt into the push on Gabriel and even the ball crossing the line but Gordon is 100% offside when the ball breaks to him. Raya is ahead of play so Gabriel is de facto goalkeeper in terms of last man.

the offside rule is two defenders behind or level with the last attacker makes the attack onside.

And the clear handball as the ball fell in between the two hands he used to push Gabriel off the ball,