Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

Good reason to avoid them unless a smart tariff is what you want

Looks like we were on the same plan and my contract was up yesterday. I talked to EI too and getting similar response to you, 10% off. Giving

35.05 c/unit on electric, 272 standing +VAT

11.61c/unit on gas, 167 standing +VAT

They did say that I could get 14% discount if I activated my smart meter and could stay on same 24 hour rate. This is why I am querying how wise or not it is to activate the smart meter. I thought it wasn't value for money and there was no going back so I am still nervous about activating. Is it worth the risk for an extra 4% discount....

Talked to SSE. They may have lower unit rates and standing charge - 31.16c/unit & 9.488c/unit.These are the discounted rates. However, some companies include their discount in the rates quoted and some don't. Really need to watch what they say very carefully. Not sure also if SSE were quoting only if I activated smart meter. My head was spinning at that stage!

Good luck with your search everyone.

Perfect thanks. Yes need to get lack of bill sorted. Have an email from them confirming rates.

Check you have picked the right option, there’s a selection box for only show results available to switch, you might need to untick that

yuno is the only company allowing bonkers to use them to switch

Cool... Just be aware that the Yuno T&C mean that you are effectively requesting and agreeing to getting a smart meter installed, IIRC anyway.

Well i dont want a smart meter, no only got the phone call yesterday of confirmation.

Estimate of next bill 55 euro prediction but only from 2 - 15 nov and its monthly and not 2 months like previous supplier.

" Usage insights vary depending on your meter type. Don't have a smart meter? We’ll request one on your behalf if you call us on 1800 554 400. " I am not calling to say i want one.

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So do people think best to get a fixed rate for year or will variable rates come down over the year?

a smart meter being used isn’t what’s known as activating it, that is when a company move you over to a smart tariff

With Energia the 24 hour smart plan was 2c a unit cheaper than the standard 24 hour plan.

Got my closing bill from EI overnight, not a single attempt did they make to keep my business.

It’s €100 to get out of contract with SSE Fixed rate Plan, just to be aware.

I can't see why anyone would not want a smart meter. It saves you money as you will tend to change usage.

In the 70's they did an experiment in Amsterdam. An estate with identical houses and similar family numbers had widely different consumption of electricity - up to 3 times the lowest.

It was nothing to do with appliances or number of people in the household,it was simply the location of the meter.

Those that had it in the hallway and usage visible daily, had substantially lower bills than those who had it in the garage.

I'd say smart meters and the available insights would make people change their usage patterns (it did change mine) and result in lower bills.

Btw, near certain EI have same rates no matter what meter you have

The issue is likely to be when you try and switch to a non-smart plan you will be stuck with smart plans. As others have mentioned there are smart 24 hour plans available. A smart tariff doesn’t mean there is a peak rate.

From Yuno’s T&Cs:

Due to applicable industry rules for smart metering once you move to a Variable Discount Plan Tariff, it is not possible to revert back to a non-smart Tariff.