Lower Decks S4-E9 "The Inner Fight" Spoilers Whitin.

At around 1pm Irish time expect the Lucasfilm lawyers phones to start hopping 😁

Loved that. Remind me, is that murdered friend the girl from the TNG episode Lower Decks?

Enjoyable episode.

Error in spelling? I get your gist! What is the definition?

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Was an interesting episode. Still so many questions to be answered though.

Interesting they made Nick Canon. (I know the whole Tom Paris thing)

Think it still might be Tin Man? Who knows.

Why strand everyone on those planets?

Why were the Klingons working with Nick?

Questions to be answered next week.

Then is that it for a long while with Trek?

That went from being "ugh, more Insufferable Mariner, this is getting so boring" to "this is my favourite episode of the season" in a few minutes.

"Not sure why people are saying "Nick Locarno is canon now" he always was. Had a whole episode about him"

Yeah, don't really understand that myself. Why wouldn't The First Duty be canon?

Did you even read what I posted?

Lorcarno was meant to be Tom Paris but couldnt because of legal fees.

So it becomes people's head canon, because it was the shows producers original plan that he would be.

Nothing as ridiculous as your Worfs-Bro-Sisko-Son thing.

Not sure how I feel about Mariner becoming the Forest Gump of Star Trek, the late 24th century events at least. But then I did like them shutting down the "Picard killed Sito" take I've seen for the last 30 years.

At first I thought we were going to get all the TNG era doppelganger in one episode, but then Crusher.

Seems they pick out the odd comments to write an article about.

He saw his fair share of caves as a captain 🤣

I only just copped something. If Mariner and Sito Jaxa were best friends in the academy that means she probably knows Locarno very well.

I always forget Jaxa was also in that episode. Mariner probably also knew the cadet who died.

Nice to finally get a firm sense of Mariner's tenure. There's been some hints but also some inconsistencies up till now. I'm guessing since "First Duty" took place in 2368 and presuming Wesley Crusher and Wil Wheaton were the same age (20), then that would mean Mariner is in her early 30s at the time of Lower Decks (2380 - 2382). Still plenty of time to turn her career around. Big inconsistency is that one of her academy friends is already a captain at the time of Lower Decks and expected Mariner to be the same but that would break even Kirk's record for becoming captain by a few years. Lt. Cmdr seems more realistic.

Nice to see Locarno officially back. I know "First Duty" is canon but it did seem like they were subtly retconning his character out of existence after Paris came along.

Does seem a little weird that a starship full of people would all report up to a 20-something year old, almost has a "Little Rascals" vibe to it. I wonder if Riker's classmate was an actual 4-pips captain or was simply referred to as "captain" in the naval tradition of being in command of a vessel but with a lower rank. Eg: Sisko when he was in command of DS9 but with Commander Rank or Dax and Worf when they were in command of the Defiant. It seems like the 4 pips are only strictly required to be in command of a larger ship/"capital ship". Riker's friend could have been a Lt. Cmdr but in command of a small vessel. I remember Riker's goal upon graduation was "Captain by age 35" which was considered a lofty goal.

Edit: Never mind, found a picture of Paul Rice and he has 4 pips on his collar. Thought given the USS Drake's "light cruiser" status, he might have retained 2.5/3 pips Sisko style.

It's hard to draw real world parallels. Voyager has the crew compliment of a modern destroyer usually captained by a commander (O5). The light/heavy cruiser distinction was almost solely down to the size of the main batteries. Several IJN light cruisers were uparmed to 203mm guns from 155mm guns once they withdrew from naval limitation treaties immediately changing their classification to heavy cruisers.

There are plenty of real example of young people in fairly important positions. If you've ever seen Band of Brothers Richard Winters was only 27 when the war ended and he was the acting battalion commander IIRC. Things are a little slower these days though, in the US at least, you would need 13 years after graduation to even be legally eligible for promotion to captain (O6) and in practice you probably won't get there before 18 years.

Well, how long did we think that Ro Lauren was killed in the Maqui conflict?

There were plans to bring Tom Riker back in the the Dominion War resisting the Cardassians/Dominion but they never found a good way to introduce him besides "somehow, Tom Riker returned."

Will did serve on a Klingon ship and it wouldn't be the biggest coincidence in Star Trek if one of the Klingons knew Will.