So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX **Threadbans in OP**

And that's well and good to say and I personally probably even agree with you (if ideals were possible) - BUT, it's not up to you and me (or Elon Musk) and Ukraine doesn't have the capacity to break the Russian military as you suggest, and its allies don't seem willing to join the fight in earnest, soooo... what then?

Should the current stalemate just continue indefinitely or until Russia pushes on a country of more interest to the US and NATO? Because that's where it is right now and meanwhile soldiers and families on both sides continue to lose.

Yes and those limits should be legal, ie directly encouraging or instructing breaking of the law.

Not simply "being a twat".

I believe that Robinson has probably passed that threshold at times and he should be dealt with for that. But the majority of both of their positions are simply extreme views on one side of society and a talent for being obnoxious.

Yes, privately run social media companies can and will do what they want.

However my initial comment was not related to social media. It was responding to someone who said that Robinson/Hopkins should not be allowed a voice in society at all, not just on social media.

As for social media, boards etc, it is a difficult question. Being a twat can ruin the experience. Trolls and abusive arse holes are a plague and social media is their playground. I don't envy anyone trying to find the balance in what to ban from their platform or not but it is not healthy for society when those bans are based on personal and political preference or allegiance. Twitter had a very left leaning oversight. Everyone is complaining now that it has become a right wing cesspool. I don't entirely agree, it's just that when it was a left wing cesspool before and now everyone they banned comes back, of course it's going to seem like a right wing invasion.

What it definitely is though, is still a cesspool. The world would be a better place without Facebook and Twitter.

Oh it's even worse than that. It's practically modelled after Musk himself.

It’s modelled on the Hitchhiker’s Guide but the “grok” part comes from ‘Stranger in a Strange Land’ by Robert Heinlein.

I thought grok came from the Judge Dredd strip in 2000AD. maybe they nicked it from Heinlein.

Ooh, how long before it calls someone a pedo.

I think he could have had that if he didn’t say too much and only made the smartarse remark.

Funny thing is, looking back at him early 2010s and he seemed cool to me. Was pushing forward electric cars and space travel. Then fast forward to him offering free frozen yoghurt and rollercoasters at work in an effort to get his staff to not unionize. Around the same time starting to calling the diver a paedophile. All his stupid ideas would largely be viewed as eccentric if he didn't express so many horrible views on top of it.

I do wonder how this will hit Tesla long term. It's made people a lot more critical of the brand. The distance they can go on a charge is great but then you look further into it and the built quality is pretty poor. And I'm in the market to go electric next year and absolutely won't be purchasing a Tesla and the owner is a factor in that decision.

There seemed to be more respect/fawning adulation for tech people back then; Adam Nuemann, Elizabeth Holmes etc. A deflation of the tech bubble (Tesla is valued as a tech company) and the slipping of his mask is going to have a big impact on Tesla.

Welcome to Elmos "Town Square", where posts like this one advocating paedophilia are boosted for just $8 a month and viewed 32m times without sanction (it's been up over 36 hours) 🙄

I'm not sure how that tweet is advocating pedophilia when it's including options to either approve or disapprove of the situation being described. If other users click 'yes', that's more on them. Actually, if a lot of people say yes, it would uncover a disturbing societal attitude that needs righting, so it would actually have been a useful tweet.