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Munster Team Talk Thread - New season title pending....

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    #20222
    Akrasia
    Registered Users Posts: 22,420 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121327153#Comment_121327153

    Joey was really good in the first game of the season, played poorly last week but now we know he was carrying an injury

    The poor fellah has the absolutely worst luck



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    #20223
    Akrasia
    Registered Users Posts: 22,420 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121327552#Comment_121327552

    Tom has been a class act every time he's fit and available.

    Every time he goes down for attention I have a mini heart attack as his durability is the only reason he hasn't already been capped for Ireland



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    #20224
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users Posts: 11,200 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121331509#Comment_121331509

    We’re in some hole now at 10 ….fingers crossed crowley stays fit …..butler going to see good bit of game time now as well which is good …..but lack of depth at 10 could cost us dearly



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    #20225
    Akrasia
    Registered Users Posts: 22,420 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    As Munster fans, the rugby season hasn't properly started until we get our first full blown injury crisis.

    I fully expect Conor Murray to be playing out half in the ERC before christmas



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    #20226
    phog
    Registered Users Posts: 24,314 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Sexton to Munster on a short term contract!

    Imagine him winning a ERC cup with us 😂


    https://twitter.com/jim_demps/status/1721449378953503203?t=1bQPZ7Ukh7rZUlmfjDoL8w&s=19




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    #20227
    boccy23
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    RG gone again? How long this time?



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    #20228
    awec
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121331844#Comment_121331844

    Surgery on a shoulder so you'd imagine that'll be a few months at least?



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    #20229
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    In better news the Irish internationals are all back in training this week and Nash hasn't been ruled out of Fridays game, so the injury can't be too bad.



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    #20230
    phog
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    If there was ever a time when you could choose not to have having RG available it's the start of the season, especially, if we can keep Kleyn and Beirne injury free.



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    #20231
    sioda
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    And more starting time for Edogbo and Tom Ahern. This is not a bad thing



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    #20232
    phog
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121331870#Comment_121331870

    One consolation, it's not his knee.



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    #20233
    boccy23
    Registered Users Posts: 2,991 ✭✭✭boccy23


    It just seems he is never available for his paymasters or at least not as often as could be. And is for SA.



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    #20234
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121332086#Comment_121332086

    He didn't make a single appearance for SA between the 2019 RWC final and the 2023 Rugby Championship.



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    #20235
    Rigor Mortis
    Registered Users Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭Rigor Mortis


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120065050#Comment_120065050

    horrible luck for Snyman and Joey. As others have said, its the right time of year to get them sorted out.



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    #20236
    Mr Tickle
    Registered Users Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭Mr Tickle


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121329564#Comment_121329564

    I only saw this now. What a strange move. Cool for Halfpenny, but I wouldn't have thought he's what the crusaders are looking for in an outside back.



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    #20237
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121332133#Comment_121332133

    You're absolutely correct but the optics are poor. He still has more minutes for SA than Munster since he made the move. He was on their sideline in the 2022 summer when still injured in his Bok team tracksuit. And as soon as his test duty is up this time, he goes in for surgery again. It's hard to think his clear priority isn't SA.

    The SA union are quite happy for their stars to go to Japan and Europe, get paid by someone else but be available and fully committed to the SA cause. I think Vermeulen at Ulster is as stark an example of it as any. He absolutely stole a living in Belfast relative to what he had done previously. And Coetzee left them absolutely high and dry, gaining an early release to return home before magically achieving fitness way ahead of schedule for the Bulls.

    Regarding Snyman, the money would be put to far better use elsewhere. The rumoured departure of Kleyn is a far more concerning development.



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    #20238
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121331844#Comment_121331844

    We have no luck with him and injuries

    Hopefully surgery will be a success and he has a quick recovery



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    #20239
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    As long as Ahern and Edogbo stay fit, Snyman is an unnecessary luxury in the URC. He'd be handy for the European knock-outs.



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    #20240
    Neil3030
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    For anyone interested, the Kleyn departure rumours seem to be in Midi Olympique who claim that he is top of Lyon's shopping list to replace Taofifenua.



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    #20241
    Jump_In_Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    Can someone update the thread title to add the word "injured" 😜



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    #20242
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121333105#Comment_121333105

    Think you're right on Vermuellen. He was a different player for the boks.



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    #20243
    mun1
    Registered Users Posts: 876 ✭✭✭mun1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121333105#Comment_121333105

    Klyne was always going to be in high demand , as one of the best TH locks in the world.

    “But the optics are poor” which of course is only your opinion , which you are perfectly entitled to on this discussion forum.

    Agreed, we didnt get great return on Snyman due to injuries (not that he decided to have surgery for the fun of it), but when he was needed, in the URC title run in last season , he was definitely committed to the Munster cause.

    no comment on your mid piece rant against SA and some of the other players.



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    #20244
    CptMonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 478 ✭✭CptMonkey


    How long ago was the final? Seems strange that we are only hearing now about the injury. We haven't gotten any return on the investment really.



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    #20245
    phog
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    Is there an international player in the world that would elect to have surgery during an international window, in particular in the lead up or during a RWC?


    No, didn't think so.



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    #20246
    clsmooth
    Registered Users Posts: 3,679 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Looks like great timing for Ahern and Edogbo to come through if both Kleyn and RG leave at the end of the season which looks like a possibility. In that sense, RG’s injury isn’t a bad one to get at this stage of the season to let the two young lads continue to get minutes and experience under their belts.



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    #20247
    irelandrover
    Registered Users Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    Kleyn leaving will be a disaster. He's been such a mainstay and a top performer in the team.



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    #20248
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,597 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121334403#Comment_121334403

    I think last season he started something like the final 18 games in a row. Unreal stuff.



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    #20249
    leakyboots
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121334232#Comment_121334232

    Agreed, the more gametime those two young players get the better as they look to have a hell of a lot of potential. You've Beirne to come back also. Wycherley is a good URC player, Coombes is covering lock pretty regularly to close out games since maybe last Feb/March? I think we're well stocked there, if the two SA do end up leaving it's a blow but not the end of the world. Would love to keep one of them though! Kleyn would be my preference, does all the dirty work and is a good man to shove a scrum



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    #20250
    Pete_Cavan
    Registered Users Posts: 6,868 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    Munster should be offering Kleyn a three year contract to get him to stay. They probably won't be able to offer him another contract after this so should be looking to lock him down longer than the standard two years.

    He has been so robust thus far that there is little risk in it. He has earned every penny Munster have paid him so far, I'm sure he'll be well worth whatever it takes to keep him. Given the way SA cultivate locks, he might not have a big test career ahead of him either, despite how well he has been playing.



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    #20251
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,481 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121335757#Comment_121335757

    Now that he is NIQ they will only be able to keep him or Snyman I would think and I'd agree they should keep Kleyn if possible but they may not be able to compete with French money for what will likely be his last shot at a big money contract sadly.



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