A Woke Society? **Mod Warning In Post #435**

The most anti woke posters on boards are opposed to everything from refugees to combatting climate change to benefits of any kind for the poor or disabled. They even oppose sex education. Meanwhile they will treat the likes of a black Little Mermaid or female ghostbusters or transgender influencers as the end of the world.

Fyi, at this stage I'm comfortable in saying I have a disability and I don't view any of the so called woke issues to be a problem, it's not an either or scenario. And to be frank, the so called woke crowd tend to care far more about the above issues than the people imploding over them. To use an example, the LGBT community were involved throughout the campaigning and canvassing for Repeal. I know plenty that do canvassing for disability rights, poverty issues etc. Although based on my reading, you'd classify even basic accessibility issues as identity politics.

From personal experience my mother is a totally selfish personality and she is almost totally lacking in any type of empathy.

She seems typical of a certain type of person.

A Cis-woman, you bigot!! 🤣🤣🤣

Then I'd argue you are directly involved. I have trans friends also, but I wouldn't assume to know what they're going through or try to speak for them (at least, not without checking first).

I have a black friend, for example, who rolls his eyes every time he hears a white person try and tell another white person to use the phrase "person of colour". Not every black person prefers this term.

a convenient definition you have, but you are right to point out that wokism is a form of fascism because it is based on in groups and out groups, in the gender area why is there rhetoric about destroying heteronormativity ? all framed in an in group/out group way. or Race "white privilege" in group/out group. Woke isnt inclusive, its decisive with the aim of, from their point of view margenalising the perceived in group as they they see it.

At an individual level any basic psychology would tell an individual not to blame other people for their problems yet woke is a set of beliefs that push exactly that message. So adopting woke attitudes is its own punishment which I find amusing, there is a certain schadenfreude to it.

Convenient allies and all that, now LGBTs are turning their backs on women who have the strange notion that biology matters in terms of what a woman is, even gays are subject to abuse from their own for expressing sexual preference. You would have to have your head pretty deep in the sand to suggest woke isnt causing problems. You only have to look at the US to see that promoting victim narratives based on race is literally killing people.

If you cannot see that some societal groups are systematically disadvantaged by their status, then you will never understand social progressives.

Ultimately it comes down to the fact that if you agree with social discrimination against a group based upon their identity - some day that person been unfairly descriminated again will be you or your children. No one chooses to be born gay, transexual or coloured and it could be your son or daughter, niece or nephew. Surely you would hate to see your own children treated unequally for something they had no control over?

My point is that people are individuals so individuals should primarily live their lives on that basis. If somebody believes that they are systematically discriminated, then you create an artificial ceiling in their lives plus giving them a grievance mentality. Take a neutral issue like a physical disability which does actually limit people, Ive never picked up that people with disabilities resent people without them but in the woke era, it is based on resenting groups.

The race one is a good example, that if you keep telling Black people that they are being discriminated against they are likely to under perform in life and create a self fulfilling prophesy for themselves. The classic Asian kids trope (but true in many cases)is that they get told early on to work hard, go to college and get a good job to earn money so that is exactly what they do. In the US Asians out perform everyone, same as white kids, they dont get told they will be discriminated against because they are white. The last thing you want to do is promote values based on immutable characteristics

I dont understand how Nazis or Catholics prove anything, being catholic isnt based on an immutable characteristic , as for nazis, that raises a good point because they thought along the same lines as wokies do, its an In group/out group grievance ideology based on the immutable characteristic of race.

Very little outside the fevered right wing shoutsphere.

It cannot be denied that white people hold massive privilege in America and it is a legitimate area for discussion.