Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

As I replied to Cluedo post 17117 @17:33. Yes you are right and I was wrong about parts the old testament still being used today in Mass etc. because they are. But I do not agree that the teachings of Christ can be chopped and changed at will, as you suggest. That part is simply not up for discussion, either you teach exactly what Christ wrote, or you are not teaching Christianity. And

Christ didn't write anything though. As far as I'm aware the earliest publication of the New testament was around 70 AD.

Look the last book of game of Thrones might only get published before George RR Martin dies of health complications, that won't have meant he didn't do any writing. ;)

Then you should re-read what the Arabs were saying about the Jews before Israel existed.

The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem said this in 1941

In 1941 Jews were being exterminated en-mass, and those that could flew did, to the UK, USA and Palestine. They held little to no power.

Anti-semtism is and was 100% the core root of this conflict.

So you have next to nothing to say about the attack on Israel in 1948. Interesting...

Nothing to do with the occupation at all, at all.

And you could well be right. All I do know from that period was the Christians and Jews were known as " The People of the Book" so its quite conceivable that Jesus's teachings were recorded, and later assembled in what we know now as the New Testament.

Crucial stages of the war as Israeli forces are in Gaza City.

Councillors really have **** all to be at

Yet the past, particularly historical injustices, is something you use as the main focus of your arguments on many other threads? You can't have it both ways.

Tbf and let’s state this factually.

The UN voted on a resolution to give 56/58% of the land to the Jews. The Arabs did not agree to it as Jews were less than 33% of the population and also the lands given to Palestinians were not as favourable ie for agriculture.

From an outsider, I can see why they would think that unfair. It wasn’t like they had agreed to it and then attacked. They opposed and if I’m right declared war the day after. The borders were then redrawn in 1967 which we have seen repeated land grabs since. And as mentioned before, UN views West Bank and Gaza as an occupied territory. To quote… this current situation didn’t happen in a vacuum.

innocent casualties on both sides have paid and are continuing to pay the price.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

Doctors without Borders nurse from the US recounts what she saw in Gaza. She evacuated last Wednesday

"Me being safe is the result of having to leave people behind."

"...Children with massive burns down their faces, down their necks, all over their limbs because the hospitals are so overwhelmed they are being discharged immediately after and being discharged to these camps with no access to running water, there's 50,000 people at that camp now, and 4 toilets. They're given 2 hours of water every 12 hours."

"fresh open burns and wounds, fresh amputations just walking around"

As it got worse the survivors even turned on the healthcare workers and because accusing them of being Israeli spies etc. for letting these atrocities continue. They "would have died in a week" without help from Palestinians in Doctors Without Borders. "only ate 700 calories a day" for 50 people each. No cell service. "The National staff (palestinian doctors)" didn't leave our side... "incredible men who have sacrificed everything for us -- time with their family, their own physical safety, their own water supply -- watching them fight to get us across the border knowing they were not coming with us -- they didn't waver -- [then we found out Abraham's] parents were dead, -- they were losing family members and friends"; "When I say we would have starved to death without them, I am not exaggerating." They also kept desperate civilians from othering them as conditions continued to deteriorate "with love and kindness, no violence in their heart -- they calmed everyone else down around them."

Anderson Cooper: Would you go back to Gaza?

"In a heartbeat. In an absolute hearbeat. My heart is in Gaza it will stay in Gaza."

"The Palestinian people that I worked with -- were some of the most incredible people in my life." "We lost a nurse weekend one, he was killed when the ambulance outside the hospital was blown up."

"I would like to send out a reminder that there are civilians seeking shelter there, and that my doctors and nurses didn't leave out of loyalty to their community; and, I know there is an idea being pushed right now that anyone staying behind right now is going to be considered some kind of a threat, and I want to remind people that the people that stayed behind are heroes. The people that stayed behind -- they know they're going to die, and they're choosing to stay behind anyway" "If I can ever have an ounce of heart they [they] have, I will die a happy person."

"I wake up every morning and I send out a text message [to the hospital staff], and I ask are you alive?, and every night before I go to sleep I send another message that says are you alive?"

Just like how the Troubles in Northern Ireland were entirely due to anti Protestantism.

Unless someone tells him differently he will annex the north of the Gaza strip.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/07/israel-war-news-hamas-gaza-palestine/