New England Patriots Thread Mod Warning Post #253

A decent slot receiver as well.

I wanted us to take Tutu Atwell in the draft a couple if years ago. Small guy, lightning quick and fantastic hands.

He's not playing there for the Rams obviously as that's Kupp's position but I think he'd be great there. I'd trade for him if the price was right.

You can get away a bit with a bad line if you have a Welker type.

We won a game of football, Macs most impressive drive in his time here for me too - happy with how that went overall.

A lot closer which does little to nothing to actually improve our position for next season. 6-11, 7-10 likely means more of the same

Que sera, sera. Bill has no answer to Miami whatsoever for the last 3 seasons. Mac with another middling to bad performance.

They're bad, like Mac is bad. One swallow etc

Pretty average. You think Mac is worth sticking with, I don't . Blow it up and start again.

We currently sit third from bottom in the league. Kyler Murray looks set to start for the Cards and he usually starts hot before falling apart so heres hoping he can bad a few wins. The Panthers don't look like they can do anything, they play the Bears this weekend so you'd never know.

If we get the no.1 pick we can get the best QB and hopefully then make some moves to get him protection. I'd still love if we got Caleb Williams but we need a lot to go our way to end up with the no.1 pick.

Watched the Jets last night, they are awful on offense.

I think Kraft takes the team's brand pretty seriously, he can't stand being a loser. It would not surprise me if he takes action before the season is out.

I'll want him gone if he fires Bill. I'd never forgive him. I'd turn up at games just to incite the crowd into booing him.

No chance he'll do it. He wants the all-time wins record. He's 28 away from it.

28 away and the way they have gone this season he’ll be a long time waiting. I don’t see why he wouldn’t control his send off. He could do a Tom coughlan type thing where both sides get to say nice things about the other and bring out the Lombardis and ride off into the sun set. This season is already a wash and I don’t think his last few seasons should be a disaster.

You probably only started following the team in the 00's. You seen a ridiculous run of success. It's okay to have a couple of seasons of downtime. We will be back.

I'm sorry, what? You could say defense was more responsible for the first SB, but overall the offense was the key to winning from there on out imo. Lest we forget that Brady and the offense had one of the best games ever in 52, and Bill's defense **** the bed.

The whole coaching side needs an overhaul. Belichick had become far too nepotistic, too many guys in position who haven't demonstrated ability to warrant it.

Can you tell me why you are jumping in seeing as you are not a fan?

I know you are free to post on any thread but this is fans talking about our current situation.

The game is more than one drive. The only reason Brady could put them ahead was because the defense held them the full game waiting for Brady to put up points. Realistically if the offense had good games those go ahead touchdowns should have been putting the game out of reach. If the defense is holding teams to under 20 points they did their job in a superbowl (in the modern era).

However they didn't and superbowls are difficult to win.

I preferred when we had heated arguments about playing the starters in Week 17, balancing the risk of potential injury against whether having that week off, plus the bye-week, would be too long a break for players.

I'm fully in agreement with you. He should give up the GM role. We might get somebody in who can find offensive talent. 😁

But seriously, at his age it's a lot of work. He's the greatest coach in the history of the sport. I'd love to see him get the wins record but he's not getting it without a decent offense.

As I've said many times it's four positions max that need to be addressed, that's left and right tackle, elite receiver and probably QB.

It's possible to fix three of those problems in one draft and then spend big on the elite receiver or left tackle in FA.

If you could roll it all back instead of having this season or last would you do it? No Superbowls, no Brady, no great memories?

That's twenty years of greatness gone.

Now imagine if Belichick was fired after his opening 5-11 season, that's exactly where you'd be now.

So how about we give him time. I think the greatest coach in the history of the game deserves lots of that.

Do you disagree that two offensive tackles and a top wide receiver and maybe a QB would put us back in serious contention?

That's true and i was very unhappy about it. Thing is Gonzalez looks the business and was a good first round pick.

Keion White is being brought along slowly but he looks a serious prospect as well. He'll be ready to explode onto the scene next season.

That leaves is in the position that resigning Uche isn't a huge concern. We can, and hopefully will, resign Kyle Dugger who I think is the best SS in the league.

So our defense looks sorted, now it's time to sort out the offense.

There's a lot of serious QB talent coming out in 2024 and we should be in position to sign one of them. I've said you can't evaluate Mac over the last two seasons because of how bad the offensive line is but I don't think he has the ceiling that the likes of Williams, Maye, McCarthy or Penix jr has.

Mike Evans is a free agent in '24 and the Bucs will be unable to pay him. He's exactly what we need at WR.

Tyron Smith is a free agent as well and he'd be the perfect guy to bring in as a mentor to rookie tackles. He'd do a good job playing a limited number of snaps while introducing the rookies to the game.

If they are willing to risk Mac for another year then we can move back in the draft and get a tackle in the first round and another in the second. That'd leave us in great shape with two picks the following year which could be used to move up the draft if we decide we need a QB.

Anyway, I'm of the opinion that we are at worst four players away from being serious contenders again.

I presume you read where I said I don't think Mac has a ceiling as high as the presumptive top four QBs in next year's draft class?

Just to clear things up. I'm not confident that Mac is the guy. All I've been saying is that it's impossible to know because he hasn't had even an average offensive line since his rookie season and it was bang average that season.

I don't agree with anybody who has decided he's not good enough. The reason for that is there's no way to know how good or bad he is.