Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

What changes were made to Ukrainians getting benefits or is just talk?

@shamnspaceYou are correct.. So far... he is suspended.. Have to say I was not very inclined to read too much about the details of his punishment myself having heard the main content of what was said.

However the fact that a Far Right axxxxxe minister is suspended from right wing emergency coalition government for making imbecilic statements and a poster here wants to somehow use some of those statements in the discussion here, is the point.

This is a person who wants to nuke Gaza...

For Netanyahu to take any steps like that at this time it shows how seriously bad/nuts those comments were!

@zell12 And why allow the " narrative " to be decided by somebody like that particular person ?

What level are some people prepared to go to to look for support for their argument in this thread?

It would be akin to listening to the Russian Ambassador or one of Putins' ministers , ranting about us taking Ukrainian refugees, and somebody quoting him here or another providing links to his statements...but only statements that reference Ireland? And that should be taken seriously?

This person is a farright (extremely ) nutjob who even other right wingers in his own government do not rate, he has been sidelined because by his pm, yet some people are quoting his comments about Ireland here as if they are the Holy Grail.

Is this the sort of commentary this thread is espousing now?

It's only kite flying Goldengirl

"Mr O’Brien said that, as of now, there have been no formal proposals or memos to Cabinet on the matter."

Too late for them i hope, absolutely no saving FF FG Greens.

Anything less & it’ll be Irish people leaving on boats & planes because another term of those makes me sick to my stomach

God forbid, The prospect of Sinn Fein and a few other lunatic fringe players taking the reins makes me nauseous.

If someones family suffer because Daddy decides to give most of their income and available accommodation to homeless people he might want to think again.

That or the Jordanians, like most Arab nations remember 'black September' and the civil war precipitated by the PLO in Jordan, they also consider the collapse of Lebanon, also in large part thanks to an influx of Palestinian refugees, and they just don't want the political instability that comes with letting people with a track record of destabilizing nations to the point of civil war into their country to do what they inevitably do.

It's almost like failed tribal, religious, and political ideologies don't just evaporate when people cross a boarder, and those failures are now a potential problem in your country. Nobody in the Middle east either likes or wants to deal with Palestinians and yet somehow a continent away, Europe for some reason should.

Aha thanks for that. So reddit rules its is.

Well now some government TDs are looking to save their skins I mean seats. Paul Kehoe of FG and former minister of defence, has called for a "serious conversation" about the number of refugees coming into the country. He wants it to be with "no holds barred" and allow him to people to say what they want to say without it being taken the wrong way.

He said that the issue of accommodation for refugees was a serious one that had been raised with him every day by ordinary people who would not normally raise such issues.

Mr Kehoe made the comments after Tipperary-based senator Garret Ahearn told the meeting he welcomed the decision to pause plans to accommodate 74 asylum seekers at a hostel in Cashel where homeless people were being accommodated by the local authority. The plan has been paused pending further discussions between the council and the Department of Integration.

FF Td Jackie Cahill of Tipperary has expressed concerns about the throwing out of homeless families onto the streets of Cashel to house International Protection Applicants i.e. Non Ukranians.

“I have serious concerns that vital homeless services, which Tipperary County Council have been availing of for many years now, could be lost to accommodate International Protection Applicants. It is not right that one group of vulnerable people in our society would lose out on existing services in favour of another group.”

Now some might say it's easy for him to say so now, once the scale of local opposition has stopped that for now. But with Paul Kehoe's statement above in bold and Jackie Cahill and Senator Garret Ahearn also agreeing with him. It's showing that there is definite public anger out there about the entire situation. No doubt there will be the plenty of shrill calls and name calling by the usual suspects.

For all those who stated that it didn’t matter about the money and resources used in housing these, well this example shows the lie in that. No amount of attempted obfuscation about separate budgets can hide the fact that this is a zero sum game. 

Its amazing how fast they can change there tune whenever public opinion changes.

And there’s massive massive issues with housing in Tipperary, and i don’t think it’s even the tip of the iceberg yet. When locals who can’t find accommodation or people who are homeless see non natives getting accommodation the only outcome will be conflict.

Yes,

This issue, up to now, has been driven by ideology.

The government is now seeing the runaway train heading for the buffers and the panic is starting.

This is the problem for those in power that encircle themselves with yes men and those who know how to manipulate idiots for monetary gain. It has taken a very long time for the general publics view to reach the top. An election on the way sharpens the mind.