Munster Team Talk Thread - New season title pending....

So leinster should have signed a RG or Klyne quality player and would have won a trophy. But Munster shouldn’t have signed a Tier 1 player as their “commitment to Munster is questionable ” , even though they helped Munster win a trophy ?

can see the frustration alright.

If you go back far enough on this very forum, you'll have posters saying Munster were signing the wrong players, they SHOULD be signing players who are International starters, now that we have signed the likes of RGS, his commitment to the province is being questioned.

Again, that can be true but that's based on his injury profile rather than his commitment to Munster.

Interesting non sequitur. He had a pretty disastrous season with injury in 21/22 for Munster. Had a look to see how many times he made it onto the pitch that season; 10 times.

I’d extend Snyman on the right deal if the irfu let me keep him and kleyn. You probably would get him cheaper with the injury. He’s a clear difference maker in knockout rugby.

The point being, a player is only worth what they will probably be able to deliver, so if Snyman gets his shoulder sorted, and shoulder surgeries seem common in rugby and players often return in a similar level after rehab, then any contract negotiations would be dependent on the value he offers for the next season or more, not what happened up to this point necessarily.

I'd say he would be a good signing but there are so many good young players I wouldn't mind a few years of trusting the young guys more.

If Kleyn and Snyman both leave we still have Beirne, Ahern, Wycherley, Hurley, Edogbo, O'Connell plus Coombes and Gleeson could fill in too.

I'd imagine before revelations about RG's upcoming surgery it was a choice of Kleyn or Snyman.

I think that as long as we can rotate the 4 second rows to give the two youngsters decent game time we should be allowed to keep both but we aren't Leinster so probably not

One or two posters expressed surprise that he didn’t return to Munster post World Cup and instead, to use your words, ‘elected to have surgery after the World Cup’ in South Africa. One poster said ‘it doesn't exactly speak volumes about his commitment to Munster.’ You seem to be getting very defensive on the matter.

Out of interest, what would be your evidence that he is ‘very committed to the province’?

Usual suspects turning up on the Munster thread to try to put the boot in on the latest Munster player in the news, POM one week, Murray another, earls the next, then Coombes, now klyne/snyman.

Only happens on this thread, never the Connacht, leinster, ulster (well ok sometimes)

How dare a player decide on where to have his surgery. He should be dragged back onto one of our HSE war zones to get himself better . How very dare he.

Me moving the goal posts?

Go back to the post from Podge and check my posts since then has been about how you can't equate downtime due to injury to lack of commitment.

I've no idea why you quote my post and then rant about moving goal posts and go off about Jenkins and his injury, I never mentioned him.

Do you think that a person who has been plagued with injury is showing a lack of commitment to his club? It's a simple question.

When Sexton was injured while playing for Racing did he ever get treatment here at home? Was that called out by anyone on this forum?

If RGS decided to have surgery in Ireland would he have to have in Munster or could he have it in Dublin, would having it in Dublin somehow show a lack of commitment to Munster.

None of us know why he's having the surgery in SA but a few of you seem to want a make an issue out of it.

I couldn't give a rat's arse where he has the surgery once it's successful.

The only thing I'm defensive about (if that's how YOU want to phrase it) is how a poster can question his commitment and give zero evidence to support that.

I'll repeat, his injury profile does not support the view that he's not committed to the province.

You might have been replying to JiJ but you quoted my post

In your attempt for one-upmanship you missed my question to you, so I'll repeat it as your answer might throw some light on the real discussion here.

Do you think that a person who has been plagued with injury is showing a lack of commitment to his club?

I don’t think that you’re thinking rationally here Phog. I’ve laid out the order of the posts and if you look carefully, rather than looking for confrontation by accusing me of writing rants and attempting one-upsmanship, you will see that you were the one that quoted me initially. I then replied to you about Jenkins as that’s who I was discussing in the post of mine you quoted. So you’ve either misunderstood or don’t want to comprehend.

You’re repeatedly asking my opinion as to whether RG Snyman is showing a lack of commitment to his club or not. I would say the optics of the situation aren’t great and would be incredibly frustrated as a Munster fan that he decided to have surgery after the World Cup and stay on in South Africa. Munster have been incredibly good to him through his injury nightmare and I hope you’ll get a good return on your loyalty this year as he’s a player we want to see in the league.

I’ll also repeat my question that you ignored earlier. What would be your evidence that he is ‘very committed to the province’?