Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

Exactly. Ref totally influenced by surrounding players.

It really is just make the rules up as you go along these days. Unbelievable.

It did come off his chest first so that means it shouldn't be a foul?

He also blew the whistle and pointed to the centre circle so is that not restarting the game?

A really worrying performance. It was as bad as Luton. They seem to think they csn just turn up and they'll win.

These TNT pundits are beyond useless.

That's what I mean, they'd never give a penalty for that because they use the excuse of "it deflects off another body part"

And about 6 different phases of play. Just a genuinely atrocious bit of intervention, made even more embarrassing by how long it took, and the ref seemingly awarding the goal.

The touch being so so long before the goal, being a bounce off a body part a yard away, and even looking like it was on the t-shirt line should all individually be reasons to not intervene, but they seem to just ignore each of those.

The cynic in my wonders if there's a slight edge of 'its better if the group goes to the last day'

The ball clearly hits him on the upper bicep... isn't that not considered the sleeve-line (so not an offence)??

Plus, it bounces off his chest first.

Plus it's a couple of phases back before the goal is actually scored.

Pure comedy of a decision. It was bizarre.

I think Klopp's plan with Macalister cannot last much longer. Watching this game and the Luton game I have this feeling that these hacks or short term solutions are starting to unravel.

Tbf it wasn't the plan today, Endo just lost his head and had to be taken off.

8 players touch the ball after Alexis, including 2 Toulouse players who block and head clear but not far enough. If you can go back that far (after blowing the whistle and pointing to tip off) then there's no point in watching anymore as they'll just rule every goal out for some vague infringement elsewhere on the pitch.

Tsimikas & Endo not good enough. Endo may deserve more time but Tsimikas is woeful. Elliott never plays well when he starts.

Whatever about those 2, Kelleher was abysmal. I really dread anything ever happening to Alisson.

Thought Endo was grand tbh. Not gonna lambast someone too much over just getting a yellow card. Was otherwise grand and tidy. Wasn't any part of our issue today.

That's a mad statement.

I think the last 2 games should temper expectations a little,posters talking about how many goals we would score against Luton and then how we would be able to rest players in the Europa league after tonight. While klopp is trying to get the balance right and rest players when he can,all these changes for each game is not helping trying to get a rhythm into the team. Very hard for some players to impress when there is so many changes in each game.

Ideally 3-4 is the max that should be made when trying to qualify put of the group. When that is achieved then wholesome changes can be made

The ref seems to give the goal, then wait for a VAR check, then give the goal again, and then goes to the replay and disallows

Feel bad mostly for Quansah, imagine it was Joe...

It's literally always, always, a bit silly to say "this guy will never ever be good enough" a few months into their time with the club.

He's exactly what we need in the role he was bought for. We needed two 6's, and he's one of them. Ideally we'll get a younger up and coming one too, but he's the experienced head amongst a rake of new kids in midfield.

He's also been pretty good in all his recent performances - and played fine (better than most) today - so really no need for such grandiose declarations.

I'm also very confident that even if we buy another 6 in January, we won't see them playing regularly for 4+ months, just like with Endo, and just like with Fabinho (who in his debut season was still almost 2 months away from being a regular at this stage).

Very unlucky not to be credited with the last minute equalizer, but Quansah was mediocre today.

Joe Cole, and some lady who I don't know said the VAR mistake was correct, that the ref and VAR made a great mistake, each one talking over each other about how important it is to make these great mistakes in key moments, and to get those mistakes right.

I think TNT need to start drug testing their pundits.