Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

Their problem is that it was established in the enron case that their defence isn't a defence at all.

I have a fear that if he sees he has lost the legal case stated against him and won't accept it, he will try another publicity stunt to [get a crowd] help him out again, aiming to present a/the judge with an option A [monetary fine] or option B [confinement] situation, prior to the judge making a ruling on the actual case presented by his defence in rebuttal to the prosecution case.

Confinement [in one of it's variations] might be the best for the US and his [real and alternative] family. As a former president, Trump knows the constitution allows for rest and rehab.

By "if he sees" I meant his changing his refusal to accept losing his business future and what he sees as his family empire and legacy to hearing the likely sentence ruling from the judge being the new reality for him. I can't see him accepting any hurtful ruling from the judge. He had to officially hand over control of his business to be president in 2016 which must have hurt him. His ego and allies are probably the only things keeping him going in a stable way right now. All the "lock them up" rubbish he spouted in the past may be coming too close to home for his liking.

I look forward to Trump and his pet accountants trying to come up with a way to excuse themselves for being responsible for not following GAAP, Sarbanes-Oxley and any Dodd-Frank provisions that Trump LLC may have breached too.

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She ain't happy

It's all so predictable in general...Rep president in, build up the bubble, Dem president in, clean up the mess and get blamed for the mess because it happens during their tenure.

Dem president with Rep house/senate, reps block anything from being implemented and then blame the president for the problem, and the American people don't seem to see it.

Eg, Reps going all in saying inflation is Bidens fault. Biden tries to introduce the Inflation Reduction Act, which the Reps all vote against and block...so that they can hold it against Biden.

Whole place is a basket-case.

It seems, from what his lawyer said on the court steps after the appearance, that she does not like the judge, as she went on about being shouted at in the court. The judge had asked her to explain to her client on how he behaves in the court.

Her statement outside the court reflects on the judge. Given that the judge has already fined her client for misbehaviour in attacking the court staff outside the court, I might expect her to push the boundaries like her client did and end up being [as an officer of the court] reprimanded at a official level or even fined by the judge for contempt of court.

Significant sliding doors moment yesterday.

In 1989 Yusef Salaam was convicted of taking part in the rape of a woman who was jogging in Central Park. Donald Trump took out a full page ad in the NY Times calling for the execution of the 5 men who were convicted. Thankfully that did not happen although the men were jailed for between 5 and 12 years, and 2 decades after their conviction, the men were exonerated through the use of DNA testing.

Yesterday, Yusef won a seat on the New York City Council.

At the same time as people were voting in yesterdays elections, Donald Trump was sitting in a New York courtroom watching his business empire (so called) crumble in what is the first of 4 federal indictments he is having to face.

Oh how the turntables have.........

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A lot of lazy echo chamber takes as you would expect .

Kentucky GOP had a good night bar the governor race where the winner is very popular and a dark horse for 2028.

Virginia, Youngkin did ok as we must remember its a blue state but ultimately he lost. The GOP have a very weak bench for 2028 and this hurts his momentum for that election.

Abortion is clearly a single issue for many voters and that's a major issue for the GOP . If somehow RDS wins the primary then his six week ban he signed in Florida will bury him.

Overall its hard to figure out where Trump and Biden are for with the rematch from hell. Its clear that Trump voters are tied to him alone and only come out with his name on the ballot. The chap who ran for the kentucky governor race touted his Trump endorsement a lot but ultimately for the cult unless you are the real thing they are staying at home.

People are very quick to forget how much Trump has poisoned his own well in that hes sown such distrust in the voting system among his own base to an extent they may not vote at all.

Is Vivek Ramaswamy a genuine Republican or a RINO like Trump using the GOP as a career-vehicle? He and Nicky Halley struck sparks off each other over TikTok and RDS, the state governor, at the GOP candidates debate in Florida yesterday.

Trump didn't attend at the GOP candidates debate in Florida, using a separate rally in Hialeah for his electoral purposes.

[BTW, I don't think Trump genuinely thought of or used the GOP as a career-vehicle, more a vehicle of convenience].

Well he does look like a frog but should he be the scorpion?

I think Tim Scott still the fav for the VP role, but Vivek was a nobody before this so no matter how the voting goes this has been a tremendous success as he has raised his profile significantly.

Hits also well documented he entered the race as a fav to trump ( he is friends with jared ) to kneecap the RDS campaign as having a stand in on stage would be very useful.