Jozef Puska guilty of murder of Ashling Murphy (Mod notes and threadbans in op)

If a picture ever painted a 1000 words.

You're being very disingenuous. All I and others are discussing is men who rape and murder. You trying to make it a male v female issue is very bad form.

My post after that offers some suggestions but I don't have the answers. If we all work together it may be possible to find the answer.

I didn't suggest shrugging our shoulders ot letting them at it.

I suggested several ways of deterring crime like this. Increased police presence, harsher sentences for murder and increased prison capabilities. Care to engage with those suggestions or offer an opinion on them. I'll engage with yours now.

1. How are they created? Through a complex set of cultural, behavioural and demographic circumstances most likely. Anecdotally, many murderers were themselves abused or bullied as children. Some however had all the love and caring a person could need and still chose to murder.

2. Are they born this way? Most unlikely, and if they are what do you suggest we do? Euthanize them?

3. Does society grow them? Most likely, however the same society grows brain surgeons and palliative care nurses. All societies grow murderous psychopaths, it has happened since the dawn of time and will continue to it's end. The more we learn the more we can do to prevent it. But there will always be some element of inequality in society and that will always breed resentment. An perfectly egalitarian society may be devoid of murderous psychopaths. Making our society more equal should help lower the murder count but zero isn't a realistic goal.

4. Murder doesn't happen that often, it's very rare in Ireland thankfully. Hence why there is such public mourning at a murder like that of Aisling Murphy.

5. Coming natural to some men? That's a pretty incendiary statement. Does it come naturally to people from specific nations? Those who follow specific religions? People from specific races? Statements like that are unwarranted.

6. Get behind the effort to stop these men? Everyone against them? That's also a very inciteful statement? Who are these men? How do you know they're are going to murder before they've done it? Are they your brother, friend, father? Maybe they're capable of murder. Do we round them up just in case?

I get that you're angry that Aisling Murphy was murdered. I am also. But you've got the wrong target for your anger. Only one man killed Aisling, that's the target for our anger.

Nobody knows for sure. Certainly, nobody will be hearing a motive from Puska. Even if he admitted to anything, would you believe him? He's not capable of lying straight in bed. I was listening to a discussion earlier and one of the journalists said that the guards think he probably was intending to rape someone. It makes sense, knowing that he was following women that day.

Sorry for going off topic

Sad thing is Society has changed for the worse and no more of this 'going out on the pull on a Friday/Saturday'. Its all about this dating app shite and lots of dangerous games associated with it

I would disagree on that point, rehabilitation after committing certain crimes has to be option, especially if the perpetrator shows remorse. However, for serial offenders or violent criminals I would agree.

Nail on head, no amount of Mrs Lovejoying is going to prevent heinous crimes being committed in the future, a murderer is born every day but no one knows who they are until they do it.

Are you serious? It's sounds to me like you want to put people away before any crime is committed, is that it?

There have been plenty of studies done on rapists, murderers and all sorts of criminals to understand what makes them tick but what might make one tick may not be what makes another tick. There is no way you can prevent a crime from happening unless you have information that it will happen, even police have to wait till a crime is committed ornabout to be committed before acting. You can't go locking up people for thinking of committing a crime.

Looks like the evidence against him was overwhelming.

the fact the judge even criticised Puska’s defence team… Mr Justice Hunt told the jury, that he agreed with their verdict, on receiving it he told them…...”glad you didn't waste any more of your valuable time with Puska's nonsense"….which it was… Puska and his teams claims that he received injuries falling off his bike and not during his poor victim’s attempt to defend herself…absolute horseshît… I don’t know how anyone could be expected to believe that given the other evidence….

obviously a storm of BS in order to try and enable a story of innocence…fairly damming remarks by the judge, fairly damming too that the verdict was 100% unanimous and achieved in pretty quick time, I think about 2 hours..

The average life sentence is 20 years according to info I’m reading… he’s 33 now….so basically he’s lost his youth… worst case he’ll be free by 54/55 probably….

Lets not get carried away, there aren't 365 new murderers born here every year.

Nothing as I said for going off topic

Just saying that society is changing and not in the right direction

These dating apps are creating a bad environment for all sexes/genders

Put up a half decent 'pic' and anyone will message back etc

Why did you go off-topic here? It's about as relevant as a discussion about the price of a bag of coal.

It could quite possibly of been the same thing and has been proven a few weeks ago with that evil bastard in Sligo put away for his hideous crimes